LDS.....

bluebell2go · Post by **bluebell2go** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:04 pm

Can anyone explain the religious reasons for the LDS compiling databases of our departed ones?

Also, I've read on another thread that the LDS only collected female birth records in certain cases. Was that because that's only what was available to them, or was this, too, something to do with their own faith?

These are probably obvious questions to oldtimers on this forum, but I've found the members of this forum to be patient and so helpful to beginners like me.

Bluebell

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:30 pm

Hi Bluebell
As far as I'm aware the reason is explained on their web site. They believe that families will be reunited in heaven,
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/We ... tory_a.asp
...so er....without being too flippant, maybe you need to do the family research so you know who exactly you are looking for when you get there!

Best wishes
Lesley

Post by **AndrewP** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:54 pm

Hi Bluebell,

The bit about the female only births is not a religious issue. I have never seen an LDS response to "why", but the reason seems to be a database issue (economising on database size?). It applies only to the online version of the IGI, that for a significant number of parishes, only the female births are to be found. If you see the microfiche version of the IGI, or the computer or CD-based versions to be found in the LDS Family History Centres, then you will find the male and female births for all parishes.

All the best,

AndrewP

bluebell2go · Post by **bluebell2go** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:42 am

Thanks Andrew and Lesley

That answered my question. From what I've found out about one or two of mine, I might want to avoid them in the next life!

Cheers

Bluebell

newlabeluk · Post by **newlabeluk** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:56 pm

"They believe that families will be reunited in heaven" and as they also believe heaven holds a finite amount of people there's gonna be a lot of disappointments

Post by **SarahND** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:54 pm

AndrewP wrote:It applies only to the online version of the IGI, that for a significant number of parishes, only the female births are to be found. If you see the microfiche version of the IGI, or the computer or CD-based versions to be found in the LDS Family History Centres, then you will find the male and female births for all parishes.

I just realized that I had not given enough significance to this fact... So, if I were to find a CD version of the IGI, I might find some of my early missing male ancestors? Are these available in all LDS Family History Centres? Can they be searched in a global way, or do you need to know the parish?

Thanks,
Sarah

StewL · Post by **StewL** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:26 am

Hello Sarah

As I write this reply I can't give you the definitve answer on the type of search available on the LDS CD's. I await with baited breath for the delivery of my copy of the BVRI and the 1881 Cenus from LDS

I would assume though that the search facility may be similar to the online version where you search for British Isles, Scotland and County

Although someone who already owns the CD's may know differently.

When I do receive my copies I will know for sure, but when I stop doing the happy dance and a jig round the room long enough to actually try them, well who knows

$\:D/$

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:48 am

SarahND wrote:
AndrewP wrote:It applies only to the online version of the IGI, that for a significant number of parishes, only the female births are to be found. If you see the microfiche version of the IGI, or the computer or CD-based versions to be found in the LDS Family History Centres, then you will find the male and female births for all parishes.
I just realized that I had not given enough significance to this fact... So, if I were to find a CD version of the IGI, I might find some of my early missing male ancestors? Are these available in all LDS Family History Centres? Can they be searched in a global way, or do you need to know the parish?

Thanks,
Sarah

A CD version of the IGI is only available at LDS Family History Centres plus NRH in Edinburgh.

Family History Centres also have a copy of the Scottish Churches CD (as does NRH), this being based on a second filming of the OPRs and the derived index, which is of better quality, altho' this CD does not have the overlap into the statutory records that IGI does, - up to 1875 for B&M, plus the census years of 1881 and 1891.

And let's not forget the microfiche version of IGI, not restricted to LDS Family History Centres, and held by many libraries around the world.......

Broadly speaking, the search possibilities available on the CDs are the same as those available on www.FamilySearch.org .

David

Post by **SarahND** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:02 am

Thanks, David

One (or perhaps two.. or three!) more questions:
Does the microfiche version also contain the neglected males? And is it only the extracted records, or are there submitted entries inserted also?

Does anyone know if Family History Centers the world over have the CDs and microfiches for Scotland, or only those in the UK? I'm wondering, for example, if I were to find an FHC near me here in France, whether they would have records for the UK or not. I'll give it a try, I think.

Cheers,
Sarah

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:32 pm

SarahND wrote:Thanks, David One (or perhaps two.. or three!) more questions:
Does the microfiche version also contain the neglected males? And is it only the extracted records, or are there submitted entries inserted also?

The microfiche version does indeed include the online "neglected" males.

The microfiches do include submitted entries, up to the date of the IGI fiche version, but this is clear in the coding of the entries (read the instructions

)

SarahND wrote:Does anyone know if Family History Centers the world over have the CDs and microfiches for Scotland, or only those in the UK? I'm wondering, for example, if I were to find an FHC near me here in France, whether they would have records for the UK or not. I'll give it a try, I think.

Cheers,
Sarah

Hmmm....... I'd expect LDS FHCs in the UK to have the IGI fiche set and the CDs, plus some outside Scotland also to have the "Scottish Churches" CD as well.

Most FHCs in Oz/NZ I'd also expect to have these. N America will be a lottery in terms of the Scottish diaspora

France ??, - wha kens

, but they should be able to call in the CDs, - I'm unsure whether it's still possible for an FHC to order in a fiche set of IGI, - I suspect not ........

David