How Would You Index This Family's Surname?

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What's your interpretation ?

Poll ended at Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:01 am

McCall
25
45%
McColl
8
15%
McCull
12
22%
M'Call
5
9%
M'Coll
1
2%
M'Cull
3
5%
Other
1
2%
 
Total votes: 55

DavidWW
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How Would You Index This Family's Surname?

Post by DavidWW » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:01 am


LesleyB
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Post by LesleyB » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:09 am

Hi David
With the image quality it is difficult to see. Any chance of seeing a little more of the page too, so we can see how the letters are usually formed?
Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by AndrewP » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:16 am

Here is a sharper copy.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1029

All the best,

AndrewP

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Post by AndrewP » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:22 am

Here is the full page.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1030

His o's were various in their style. Some closed at the top, some not. The lead-off connecting to the next letter - some leave from the top of the o, others from much lower down.

See the word son in the next family group.

All the best,

AndrewP

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Post by DavidWW » Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:24 pm

LesleyB wrote:Hi David
With the image quality it is difficult to see. Any chance of seeing a little more of the page too, so we can see how the letters are usually formed?
Best wishes
Lesley
No!, 'cos if you're an Indian sub-continent/Chinese/Phillipino data inputter you don't have the luxury of a leisurely look at the rest of the page.

And, see ADP's post, - would it really have helped :?: :wink:

David

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Post by LesleyB » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:19 pm

Hi David
No!, 'cos if you're an Indian sub-continent/Chinese/Phillipino data inputter you don't have the luxury of a leisurely look at the rest of the page.
And, see ADP's post, - would it really have helped
a. I'm not an Indian sub-continent/Chinese/Phillipino data inputter - and anyway I'm sure, just like Freecen volunteers, they do see the whole page, and at a reasonable resolution....

b. Yes, Andrew's uploads did help a great deal - I've made my decsion and voted accordingly.

Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by DavidWW » Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:24 am

There's a world of difference between FreeCen volunteers who can take as much time as they want, and the employees of commercial data input companies.

David

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Post by Pandabean » Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:57 pm

I guess it would depend on how much knowledge I had of names and their spellings.

If I had no knowledge and was just trying to transcribe from that image I would say it was M'Cull or W'Cull.

But with some knowledge I guess I could say it was McCull and I am guessing it is supposed to be McCall.
Andy
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[b]McDonald[/b]
[b]Greenlees & Fairnie[/b] (Musselburgh area)
[b]Johnston, Whitson, Whitecross, Runciman [/b] (Haddingtonshire)
[b]Rutherford [/b](Dumbartonshire, Airth & Larbert)
[b]Ross, Stevenson & Robb[/b](Falkirk)[/size]

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Post by DavidWW » Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:50 pm

Pandabean wrote:I guess it would depend on how much knowledge I had of names and their spellings.

If I had no knowledge and was just trying to transcribe from that image I would say it was M'Cull or W'Cull.

But with some knowledge I guess I could say it was McCull and I am guessing it is supposed to be McCall.
That's the whole point of my poll.

In other words, given my expertise, and the time that I have available, I can make the judgement that McCull or M'Cull is unlikely but not impossible; that McCall and McColl, and the M' variants are equally likely; but also take all the time that I want to to look at other entries on the same page, never mind preceding and following pages .................. and, beyond that, take a sidetrip into the BMD records to see how the surname is recorded there ......... before I reach a conclusion :!: :wink:

David

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Post by David Lang » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:06 pm

I have this very problems with McCalls.

They have been McCall, McColl , McCaul, McAul, McAll and also with Mac prefix.

It is very frustrating especially when the knowledge of them is thin and they like to move parishes all the time and they use extremely common names William , Robert James and John
Lang/loynachan/oloynachan/Gillies/Scally/McIlchere- Argyll, Denovan/Rollo, Stirling/Burns-Stirling Mackie/Grant/Ingils/Campbell-Aberdeen,Stewart/Bell-Glasgow
Brown-Ardrossan/Dundonald, Gemmell- Johnstone/Partick
McKelvie-Arran/ayrshire