McBean Family

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Russell
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Post by Russell » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:20 am

Hi Mark

My first response was "oh goody ! lots of questions" then I saw the McBean name in your list and wondered 'will there be a contact in this line ?' My g grandfather had McBean as his middle name and we have never figured out - yet where it came from.

Who knows - perhaps you :!: :!:
As Lesley said figure out your questions and fire away.

Russell
P.S. Genealogy is an honourable addiction to suffer from (or for :? )
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny

heymarky
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Post by heymarky » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:17 am

My closest 'McBean' is Isabella McBean, my gx3 grandmother.

She had a brother named David Young McBean, so there might be some Youngs back there somewhere.

She had twin daughters both with multiple middle names:
Marion Logan Georgina Dyer and
Eliza Scott Robina Dyer

Marion Logan was her mother-in-laws maiden name. She may have had a brother-in-law named George. I still haven't found any Scotts.

Actually one of my questions is what sort of naming rules / traditions are there for middle names? I find lots of middle names that seem to be trying to whisper hints to me.

Russell
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Post by Russell » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:02 pm

Hi Mark

This gets weirder by the minute. :shock:
I have an Alexander McBean Morton born in Edinburgh in 1844. Although the line finished up in Fife (Scoonie)

My own family line is Young and I have several David Youngs going back to the first I have found so far in 1810 in Cambuslang, Lanarkshire but most recently in Edinburgh up to the present day.


I will be particularly interested in some of your names, dates and places.

Its great when you can get excited just sitting in a computer chair in front of a screen.

Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny

heymarky
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Post by heymarky » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:19 pm

Russell, I've sent you an email with a link to where you can have a look at my McBean/McBain/MacBayne connections. Let me know if you spot any familiar names in there.

Mine seemed to be found of naming children after cousins. I found a Jamesina Dyer McBean born about the same time as James Dyer, so I really do think there is a David Yound lurking in the wings somewhere.

Cheers,

Mark

Jockbird
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Post by Jockbird » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:44 pm

Hello Russell & Mark,

In your McBean research you've not come across a George McBean who was born circa 1816, according to the 1841 census, and died before the 1851 census, have you???

George McBean or McBain was a tailor, he was born "outside Census County" (living in Dingwall at the time of 1841 census) and was married to an Ann Bethune, aka Beaton. George and Ann had two daughters Jessie and Susanna. By 1861 they were all living in Banff.

Do these names ring any bells? I've been searching merrily for McBains but only found them in the last 2 days lurking as McBeans!

Best wishes
Donna :wink:

heymarky
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Post by heymarky » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:05 pm

I don't have any Georges, but several of my McBeans were tailors. (in Inverness and Aberdeen)

One of my McBains married a McBean. Imagine my surprise when I got their marriage certificate and discovered they were first cousins! :shock:

I also notice some familiar names in you list of surnames. My McBeans have marriage connections to:
  • McIntosh
    • Ann McBean / John McIntosh / 23 Aug 1867
      • Children: Jane (1868), Catherine (1872)
    Fraser
    • Margaret Reid McBean / David Fraser / 6 Nov 1868
      • Children: Hugh (1870), Elizabeth (1869), David James (1872)
I have some Cruickshank's mixed in with my Dyers and the names Millar and Aiken seem to come up alot when looking at might-be-kin Dyers.

Any Dyers (or Dyets) lurking in the shadows around your family tree? :)

Jockbird
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Post by Jockbird » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:44 am

Hi Mark,

No Dyers found...yet....never say never in this game.

Unfortunately I know no more of George than I posted, then on his wife's death cert he's managed to have his name changed to John (thank's to a son-in-law informant)....good job I found them together in 1841. Intresting that yours were tailors, I wonder if there is a distant connection, a family trade or such....or perhaps half the highlands were tailors and i'm just showing my ignorance! :oops:

My McIntosh married a McAllister. She was Isabella and was born in Redcastle, Ross & Cromarty. She ended up down in Glasgow by 1814 or so. Have no idea where her husband William came from, he unfortunately died before 1841.

My Millars are all from Hamilton and Bothwell before that, although they then moved to the centre of Glasgow and onto Dalmuir & Clydebank by the time of WW1.

As for the Cruickshanks, I have two lots. One from Aberdeen, the other from Turriff & Monquhitter area. My Aiken married one of the Aberdeen Cruickshanks.

Best wishes
Donna :wink:

Russell
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Post by Russell » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:39 pm

Hi Mark

I have had a good look at your family links but there were no apparent connections. My possible McBean links would have to be in or around Edinburgh and none of yours seems to have strayed in that direction. At least you and Donna might find a match up since they were all in roughly the same area.

Your David Young seems to appear out of nowhere. Again mine were all Lanrkshire and Ayrshire at that time.

Some families seemed to have a pattern in the use of middle names but there is no 'Scottish' naming pattern at all. Quite a few of ours appear to have adopted middle names although they were not baptised with that name. Why they decided to do this may remain forever a mystery but it was perfectly legal in Scotland to amend or even completely change your name, which perhaps explains why some of our ancestors are more difficult to find.
Life was much simpler in the days when you didn't have to carry passport, driving licence, security entrance card, local I.D. card etc.
You could be John Smith on a Monday; Hamish McTavish on a Tuesday.....
As long as it affected no-one else Walter Mitty hadn't a look in. The only problem was that in a small community everyone knew you anyway :!:

From a mildly disappointed Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny

heymarky
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Post by heymarky » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:32 pm

Hi Russell,

Before you get too disappointed, my David Young McBean's sister, Isabella, married Robert Dyer... who was born in Ayr, and they ended up in Glasgow. (insert Twilight Zone theme music)

Cheers,

Mark
Lyons and Dyers, McBeans, oh my!