McCracken family.....

[Brenda]

Hello Everyone,

I just joined today . Probably doing this all wrong but here goes.I was born in Glasgow, came here to Adelaide and now have 3 wee Aussie grandweans. I want to be able to tell them of their Scottish roots. My starting point is the marriage record for my husband's maternal G grandfather.

John McCracken (2 ) born about 1844 a baker, [ widower] , son of John McCracken (1) master baker , [deceased ] and Janet McCracken [nee McCreadie], deceased, married Elizabeth Gibben , born abt 1851 [ daughter of Laurence Gibbon & Margaret McCreadie ] June 5th 1874 in Glasgow.

I believe that John 2 was previously married to Agnes Miller. But no matter what I try I just cannot find out anythig about his parents John (1 )& Janet and would welcome any suggestions

Thank you

Brenda

[JustJean]

Hi Brenda

I wonder if you've viewed John's first MC yet? The reason I ask is that not only will it confirm his parents are named the same as on his second MC but you will note whether they were living or deceased when he married then. This will help you narrow up a time to search for their deaths and with luck their deaths will have occurred post 1855 and you will be able to obtain information on their parents names and therefore work backward another generation! I'll tell you that you're correct in who he married firstly and that it's in 1865. You might also note from the first MC that if this info is correct perhaps your estimate of John's birth year needs to be adjusted a bit....

Best wishes
Jean

PS...Welcome! (almost forgot )

[emanday]

Welcome Brenda,

Jean beat me to it

Also, just to check, both his mother and his wife's, mothers' maiden names were McCreadie?

[paddyscar]

Hi Brenda:

Welcome, and you've posted to the thread just fine

Could you tell us a bit about where you've already looked so we can suggest other spots or methods to use? Have you looked on any of the census records? John was married in Glasgow, but do you have any idea if he was born there, or elsewhere.?

I did a quick search of ScotlandsPeople and located 10 John McCrackens married between 1835-1846, but only 2 of them to Janets, but not to any McCreadie.

The members are very good at helping out on problems, so now you're not alone in your search

Frances

[momat]

Hello Brenda,

Found 3 children from the marriage of John McCracken & Agnes Miller that confirms the first marriage but nothing else for him apart from the 1874 marriage to Elizabeth that you have

Results for: Birth/Christening, Scotland, British Isles
Father: John McCracken, Mother: Agnes Miller

International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 3
Select records to download - (50 maximum)
1. JAMES MCCRACKEN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 15 APR 1869 High Church, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
2. AGNES MILLER MCCRACKEN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 03 JUL 1873 High Church, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
3. ELIZA MILLER MCCRACKEN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 27 JAN 1866 High Church, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

There seems to be a dozen and one ways to spell McCracken on the I G I.
Don't know if it helps any.

[Montrose Budie]

No trace that I can see of John junior in the 1881 or 1871 censuses, but wife #1 died in 1873.

There is an 18 year old in 1861 in the poor house but he's a tailor.

With a surname like McCracken there's a good hcance of a connection to Ireland.

David

[Montrose Budie]

No trace that I can see of John junior in the 1881 or 1871 censuses, but wife #1 died in 1873.

There is an 18 year old in 1861 in the poor house but he's a tailor.

With a surname like McCracken there's a good hcance of a connection to Ireland.

David

PS Later

How did I miss this in 1881 ?.................

Dwelling: 163 Aitkenhead Rd
Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203673 GRO Ref Volume 644-11 EnumDist 103 Page 5
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John MC CRACKEN M 31 M Colmonell, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Baker
Elizabeth MC CRACKEN M 28 F Girvan, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Wife
James MC CRACKEN 11 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Margaret MC CRACKEN 6 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Thomas MC CRACKEN 4 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Janet MC CRACKEN 2 F Govanhill, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Elizabeth MC CRACKEN 5 m F Govanhill, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur

The birth record of 1 of the kids proves that this is the right family via the mother's maiden name and place/date of marriage.

So at least you now know where John was born, - not Ireland, - but closer than Glasgow


dww

[Brenda]

Thank you all so very much, for the warm welcome and the information.
It's so hard tring to access data from here in Oz, not to mention very expensive.

No, I have not viewed the MC for John 1, don't know how to do that?

I have a birth certificate for Robert McCracken, [ son of John 2] he was born in Glasgow oct 31st 1885., and his MC to Helen Loag, at the time of his marriage , 1910. both his parents were deceased.

Wish I had thought to ask "Where do I come from ?" when I lived in Scotland!

[Brenda]

Just a thought..going by the date of death for Agnes McCracken Sr. and the birth date for her daughter {Agnes], wonder if she died in childbirth?

[AnneM]

Hi Brenda

A very warm welcome to you. You do realise that you have opened a can of worms for yourself there and that you will soon know more than you could have imagined about the Scottish ancestry for the grandweans.

You will find the first marriage on the Scotland's People site, link at the top of this page. The search facilities are quite straightforward. Unfortunately you need to buy credits to view the certificates but the cost is not prohibitive and, as I said elsewhere, why else do we work if not to feed our Family History addiction.

There are a lot of leads from the people who have replied to you already so you are well on your way.

There are a few threads on here about getting the most out of your searches on Scotland's People and everyone will muck in if you get stuck.

Happy hunting.

Anne