Can anyone help me find a family in 1871, Please?
Orlando Glenn Dewar born 1824, wife Winifred born c1830, son Orlando born 1853, daughter Winifred born 1859 were living in Devon/Cornwall but disappear after the 1861 census. Orlando senior's father came from Stirlingshire so I wondered whether the family might have moved up there.
With such an unusual name he should be easy to spot.
Thanks
Mo
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Muriel
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Hi Mo
If you look at FreeBMD for England & Wales you'll find the death of Orlando Glenn Dewar in Stoke Demerel, Devon in the March 1852 quarter & the birth of Orlando John Glenn Dewar in the March 1853 quarter, also in Stoke Demerel. That would look to be your starting point!
Muriel
If you look at FreeBMD for England & Wales you'll find the death of Orlando Glenn Dewar in Stoke Demerel, Devon in the March 1852 quarter & the birth of Orlando John Glenn Dewar in the March 1853 quarter, also in Stoke Demerel. That would look to be your starting point!
Muriel
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Cornish MO
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Orlando Dewar
The birth in 1848 and death in 1852 was Orlando senior's son, Orlando. A second son was born in 1853 who was also named Orlando. I have the family in 1861 living in East Stonehouse Plymouth but indexed as Demar.
I can't find them anywhere after 1861 and wondered if they might have returned to Scotland - or of course left the UK altogether!
Mo
I can't find them anywhere after 1861 and wondered if they might have returned to Scotland - or of course left the UK altogether!
Mo
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LesleyB
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Hi Mo
...and welcome to Talking Scot
Not seeing any obvious candidates. (later edit - sorry, should have mentioned searches were conducted on ScotlandsPeople) A search for any male with name o** d*r produces 14 matches: mostly Owens & Olivers, with surnames Danigher, Deair, Diner, Drever, Dryer, Dunbar, Dwyer, and of course, DEWAR.
The search criteria were left so open as I doubted there would be many males whose name began with "O" and with Orlando Dewar not being a common combination I suspect it is often mistranscribed.
There is one Oliver Dewar who caught my eye as his age seems about right to be your Orlando jnr; he is 17 and living in Anderston, but there does not seem to be another "Oliver" aged about 46/7 also in Anderston as might be expected, and a separate search is not returning any win* Dewar aged between 37-43 in Anderston so I have my doubts on that one.
Nothing in Stirling area other than a Hugh Osborne Dyer aged 2.
Best wishes
Lesley
...and welcome to Talking Scot
Not seeing any obvious candidates. (later edit - sorry, should have mentioned searches were conducted on ScotlandsPeople) A search for any male with name o** d*r produces 14 matches: mostly Owens & Olivers, with surnames Danigher, Deair, Diner, Drever, Dryer, Dunbar, Dwyer, and of course, DEWAR.
The search criteria were left so open as I doubted there would be many males whose name began with "O" and with Orlando Dewar not being a common combination I suspect it is often mistranscribed.
There is one Oliver Dewar who caught my eye as his age seems about right to be your Orlando jnr; he is 17 and living in Anderston, but there does not seem to be another "Oliver" aged about 46/7 also in Anderston as might be expected, and a separate search is not returning any win* Dewar aged between 37-43 in Anderston so I have my doubts on that one.
Nothing in Stirling area other than a Hugh Osborne Dyer aged 2.
Best wishes
Lesley
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nelmit
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Re: Orlando Dewar
Hello Mo,Cornish MO wrote:Can anyone help me find a family in 1871, Please?
Orlando Glenn Dewar born 1824, wife Winifred born c1830, son Orlando born 1853, daughter Winifred born 1859 were living in Devon/Cornwall but disappear after the 1861 census. Orlando senior's father came from Stirlingshire so I wondered whether the family might have moved up there.
With such an unusual name he should be easy to spot.
Thanks
Mo
In 1871 there is an Orlando J Glendower born 1855 living in Jersey, Channel Islands.There is also a Winifred born 1860.
Worth a check
The head of the household seems to be C Robt born 1824 so maybe not but his wife is Winifred. I'm sorry I don't have an ancestry account but if you do, enter Glendower exact spelling - there are a few of them.
Kind regards,
Annette M
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nelmit
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here is that family in 1881 -
Dwelling: 24 Pier Road
Census Place: St Helier, Jersey, England
Source: FHL Film 1342348 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5611 Folio 8 Page 10
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Orlando GLENDAWER M 61 M England
Rel: Head
Occ: Boat Builder
Winifred GLENDAWER M 50 F England
Rel: Wife
Occ: Dress Maker
Thomas GLENDAWER U 19 M England
Rel: Son
William GLENDAWER U 15 M England
Rel: Son
Occ: Apprentice (Undef)
Susan A. FOWLER M 48 F Jersey, Channel Islands
Rel: Wife
Occ: Laundress
And the younger Orlando -
Dwelling: Hampshire Garden Cottage No 1
Census Place: St Helier, Jersey, England
Source: FHL Film 1342349 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5614 Folio 30 Page 12
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Orlando GLENDEWAR M 26 M England
Rel: Head
Occ: Sailor
Georgina GLENDEWAR M 23 F St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Rel: Wife
Occ: Wife
Orlando GLENDEWAR U 2 M St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Rel: Son
Occ: Son
Elizabeth CHING W 67 F St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Rel: Mother In Law
Occ: Housekeeper
How does Orlando senior's occupation tie in?
Kind regards,
Annette M
Dwelling: 24 Pier Road
Census Place: St Helier, Jersey, England
Source: FHL Film 1342348 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5611 Folio 8 Page 10
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Orlando GLENDAWER M 61 M England
Rel: Head
Occ: Boat Builder
Winifred GLENDAWER M 50 F England
Rel: Wife
Occ: Dress Maker
Thomas GLENDAWER U 19 M England
Rel: Son
William GLENDAWER U 15 M England
Rel: Son
Occ: Apprentice (Undef)
Susan A. FOWLER M 48 F Jersey, Channel Islands
Rel: Wife
Occ: Laundress
And the younger Orlando -
Dwelling: Hampshire Garden Cottage No 1
Census Place: St Helier, Jersey, England
Source: FHL Film 1342349 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5614 Folio 30 Page 12
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Orlando GLENDEWAR M 26 M England
Rel: Head
Occ: Sailor
Georgina GLENDEWAR M 23 F St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Rel: Wife
Occ: Wife
Orlando GLENDEWAR U 2 M St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Rel: Son
Occ: Son
Elizabeth CHING W 67 F St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Rel: Mother In Law
Occ: Housekeeper
How does Orlando senior's occupation tie in?
Kind regards,
Annette M
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Cornish MO
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Orlando Dewar
Hi Annette
Thank you so much! It certainly looks like my family - I'll check on Ancestry tomorrow. It never occurred to me that he might travel as far as Jersey.
Orlando junior fits the family profile as we have a lot of sailors - the Dockyard is in Plymouth.
Orlando senior was a boatworker/shipwright. The 1860s saw the advent of the iron ships so Orlando's wooden ship making skills would have been redundant unless he learned a new trade so moving somewhere else would have been an option.
Thankyou again.
Mo
Thank you so much! It certainly looks like my family - I'll check on Ancestry tomorrow. It never occurred to me that he might travel as far as Jersey.
Orlando junior fits the family profile as we have a lot of sailors - the Dockyard is in Plymouth.
Orlando senior was a boatworker/shipwright. The 1860s saw the advent of the iron ships so Orlando's wooden ship making skills would have been redundant unless he learned a new trade so moving somewhere else would have been an option.
Thankyou again.
Mo