ROSS-SMITH

[LuAnn]

I am new to this forum and this is my first post. I am looking for information on my grandmothers family Helen Ross SMITH born to Helen ROSS and William SMITH. They were married Mar 06, 1880 and had 13 children of whom my grandmother was the 13th. My grandmother and at least two of her siblings both brothers came to Canada and a sister went to New Zealand. As I am researching from a distance I am hoping that someone can point me to some sites that are inexpensive (free is even better) where I could try and follow this family back. Any help would be most gratefully appreciated
LuAnn
Ontario, Canada

[emanday]

Hi LuAnn,

A warm welcome to

Could you tell us where Helen Ross Smith was born and where her parents were married?

[LuAnn]

Apologies, I was trying so hard to make sure I didnt put too much info in I forgot the important stuff. Helen Ross SMITH was born to Helen ROSS and William SMITH on march 13, 1903 while I dont have her birth registration I do have one from a brother and one from a sister both list the place of residence as 10 Granton Place Aberdeen, and the place of the marriage is listed as Old Machar. Helen, the mother died when my grandmother was about 7 family lore says of consumption. Thank you for your help
Luann

[emanday]

Hi again LuAnn,

Could this be them at 14 Granton Place in 1901? Note the double "L" in Hel(L)en

1901 Scotland Census
Name: Hellen Smith
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William
Gender: Female
Where born: Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: St Machar
Civil Parish: Aberdeen Holburn
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 14 Granton Place
ED: 30
Page: 44 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 245
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1901_58
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes R Smith 11
Frank R Smith 2
George R Smith 1
Hellen Smith 40
James B Smith 20
Joseph R Smith 9
Katherine B Smith 17
Sylverster Smith 6
William Smith 48
William R Smith 15

[emanday]

Back in 1891...

1891 Scotland Census
Name: Helen Smith
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William
Gender: Female
Where born: Abdn, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil Parish: Aberdeen Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 10 Granton Pl
ED: 26
Page: 31 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 186
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1891_53
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes R Smith 1
Catherine B M Smith 7
David Smith 17
George R Smith 3
Helen Smith 29
James Smith 10
William Smith 37
William R Smith 5

and 1881...

1881 Scotland Census
about William Smith
Name: William Smith
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen
Gender: Male
Where born: Lochee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil Parish: Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 87 Claremont St.
Occupation: Wood Mechanic (Jour
ED: 23
Page: 30 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 120
Line: 12
Roll: cssct1881_53
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Smith 1
David Smith 6
Helen Smith 20
James Smith 2 Mo
William Smith 28

[emanday]

If the children's names seem right then you can try searching for their births on Scotlands People. For the adults I'd use +/- 3 years as ages could sometimes be "guesstimates".

[LuAnn]

Thank you so much Mary, I am pretty sure this is the family, many of the names are right, and the address. One question, as I am not familiar with occupation names in Scotland, is a wood mechanic the same as a sawyer or wood cutter both descriptions used for william on the two birth registrations that I have for the family.

I really appreciate your quick response, and my father who knows very little about his mother's family will be quite thrilled to get this info.
Best wishes from Canada
LuAnn

[emanday]

To be honest with you LuAnn, some of the transcriptions in Ancestry can be anything from innaccurate to downright hilarious. "Wood Mechanic" could very well be "Wood Machinist".

The only way to be sure is to look at the original census image on Scotlands People on http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ , the best Scottish family research by far. It is pay to view but the information you'll get from the Birth, Marriage and Death certificates as well as the Censuses, will amaze you.

You and your father may very well be in for a few treats.

[emanday]

I've PM'd you but here's something...

Helen Ross's parents marriage is on SP (Note the spelling of her mother's name)

09/12/1852 ROSS ALEXANDER CATHARINE MILNE/ M Old Machar ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN 168/B00 0180 0289

[LuAnn]

Mary, I did relpy to your pm message but am not sure I did it right. Still learning my way around
LuAnn