Canongate/Duddingston - the same???

amadaeus10 · Post by **amadaeus10** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:49 pm

Hello!

Wonder if I could pick the brains of someone more au fait than me with Edinburgh.

Several times when looking on SP for someone in Edinburgh, it comes up 'all districts - one match'; on trying to narrow it down, it gives 'Canongate - one match' - so far so good - but it also gives 'Duddingston - one match'.

Do the two districts overlap? Or is this a glitch with Scotlandspeople??

Many thanks in advance for any response.

Gordon.

Post by **paddyscar** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:26 pm

The birth record I have from Cannongate, is also located when Duddingston is substituted. The census reference for Cannongate begins 685/03.

amadaeus10 · Post by **amadaeus10** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:14 pm

Hello Paddyscar:

Thank you - at least I am not the only one it is happening to. Not quite sure of the significance of the census reference, but am beginning to think perhaps there is an overlap with Cannongate and Duddingston. Thank you again for responding,

Gordon.

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:20 pm

Hi Gordon

I think that only an historical cartogrpher could make sense of the various changes to boundaries in Edinburgh.

The original town was clustered around the foot of the Castle rock down to Holyrood and they had to drain a loch so that the New Town could be built across the vally (now Princes st Gardens) Duddingston was a rural area but as Canongate spread out it gradually took in that area. Even Leith eventually succumbed but don't tell the older Leithers that - they still think they are independent. Leith used to be a completely separate sea port.
Much the same happened on the West side. I think it was Andrew who posted the nls.uk web site where you can find an 1888 map of Edinburgh with the parishes marked out.

Russell

Post by **AndrewP** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:02 am

Hi Gordon,

The histories of Duddingston and Canongate registration districts are:

684/01 Duddingston (Portobello burgh) 1855-1896
684/02 Duddingston (landward) 1855-1896
685/05 Holyrood and Canongate, Edinburgh 1855-1858
685/05 Canongate, Edinburgh 1859-1938

The Burgh Reform Act (1896) took Portobello, but not Duddingston (landward), into Edinburgh from 1897.

684 Duddingston 1897-1902
685/06 Portobello, Edinburgh 1897-1902

Duddingston came into Edinburgh from 1903, and as far as I can tell was absorbed into Portobello registration district. Although I guess that some of Duddingston may have been absorbed into Canongate registration district. It is difficult to find for sure where the registration district boudaries lay within the city.

685/07 Portobello, Edinburgh 1903-1919
685/09 Portobello, Edinburgh 1920-1929
685/08 Portobello, Edinburgh 1930-1938

From 1939 the two registration districts were merged.

685/03 Canongate & Portobello 1939-1971

The question that I have no answer to is "on SP for some indexing purpose, have these RDs been combined?".

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

amadaeus10 · Post by **amadaeus10** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:42 pm

Thank you both Russell and Andrew for your full and very helpful replies - as a Glaswegian I was always more familiar with Uddingston than Duddingston, and thought Jam Tarts were for eating

Thank you all again,

Gordon

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:42 pm

Hi Gordon

I feel slightly schizophrenic having been born in East Lothian and worked in Edinburgh (Thin's bookshop) before moving to Glasgow and having to learn that the east coast half loaf was unknown to the Glaswegians and the OLD FIRM had nothing to do with heavy industry.

Russell

Post by **AndrewP** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:46 pm

The differences between the east and west of Scotland run even deeper than Jam Tarts and half loaves. The ultimate difference is what goes on your pie supper at the chippy - salt and vinegar (west) or salt and sauce (east).

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

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Canongate/Duddingston - the same???

Canongate/Duddingston - the same???

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