Great War, Pte George Henry Fenwick Royal Scots Fusiliers

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Michelle nee Fenwick
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Great War, Pte George Henry Fenwick Royal Scots Fusiliers

Post by Michelle nee Fenwick » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:32 pm

Hi Everyone Happy Easter,
I have recently found this ancestor of mine and would like to try and find a bit more info and possible photos about him and his regiment.
Pte George Henry Fenwick 17003 Royal Scots Fusiliers.
6/7 Batallion.
From 237 Granville St Park Sheffield.
Killed In Action 22nd August 1917 aged 20. Grave Unknown. On the Tyne Cot Memorial panel 60/61.
1] Is he remembered on any Memorials in Scotland?
2] Are there any photo's of this regiment or him?
3] In his Roll Of Honour in the Sheffield Independent paper Wednesday 19th Sept 1917 it states previously wounded now killed. Does this mean he was injured previously then went back to battle at a later time? I have looked on his service records but they are difficult to read as ink has faded.

4] Any other info anyone has would be great.
Thanks so much
Michelle

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Re: Great War, Pte George Henry Fenwick Royal Scots Fusilier

Post by AndrewP » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:40 pm

Michelle nee Fenwick wrote:1] Is he remembered on any Memorials in Scotland?
He is named in the books in the Scottish National War Memorial in Edinburgh Castle.

See http://www.snwm.org/

Was he Scottish born, or had he lived in Scotland? If so, whereabouts? These would give the first possibilities of where to look for him on a Scottish war memorial.

See http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/

All the best,

AndrewP

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Post by Michelle nee Fenwick » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:46 pm

Hi Andrew,
No he wasn't born in Scotland. He was born in Sheffield, England. Thanks for your reply.
Best wishes
Michelle

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Post by apanderson » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:42 pm

What would his connection be to Scotland Michelle?

Being in a Scottish Regiment wouldn't 'entitle' him to be on any Civic War Memorial as the men and women listed on these would normally have been resident or have connections to the particular town/village where a memorial was erected, but he could be on a Regimental one somewhere.

Anne

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Post by Michelle nee Fenwick » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:53 pm

Hi Anne,
He has no known connections to Scotland. The only thing I can think of is perhaps the regiment was recruiting in Sheffield or one of his friends joined the regiment .
As I do my family tree I think the Fenwicks will originate in Scotland.
Thanks for your help I am hoping he might be on a regimental one. I'd like to know more about this regiment.
Thanks
Michelle

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Post by apanderson » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:10 pm

Have a wee look here: http://www.1914-1918.net/rsfus.htm

If you 'Google' Royal Scots Fusiliers, there are lots of sites and hopefully you'll get some useful info.

Anne

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Post by djcrtoye » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:54 pm

Another possibity is that as manpower was being reduced he was sent to that regiment to bring it back up to strength.

Hope that helps.
Always looking for rellies near and far, especially Toy(e), Berwick, Tobin, Quinn, Gallagher, Pope and Anderson

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Post by Maisie » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:40 pm

I think that volunteers in the Great War got the choice of regiments. My grandfather signed up in Edinburgh and was shown the cap badges of all the regiments and asked to choose. He picked one with a horse because he thought it was the cavalry and ended up in the Royal West Kents (the emblem was Invicta, for those who remember the buses!)

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Post by Currie » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:48 pm

Hello Michelle,

“Wounded now killed” does seem a bit unusual. In fact the term only comes up once in a London Times search of the WW1 period and that one started “previously reported as”. I don’t know whether the Military stuck to a standard format when they made up lists or whether they varied or maybe the local newspapers liked to fiddle with them as they did with stories from news agencies etc. The word “killed” certainly makes you think of someone wounded, and reported wounded, lying in an Aid Post and hit by a stray shell or something like that.

While that’s possible, all you can probably be sure of is that he was on a previous casualty list, possibly reported in an earlier edition of the same newspaper, as wounded, and that is now being updated or corrected. It’s a similar situation to where someone is reported missing and it is later found that they are among the dead. In a battlefront situation there can be errors made involving identification or later clerical errors that require correction.

That’s what I think,
Alan