"Thomas Battalion" 1/7 Scottish Rifles

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Cathy
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"Thomas Battalion" 1/7 Scottish Rifles

Post by Cathy » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:00 pm

One of my distant possibles:

Private James Quinn 266366. Found him on CWGC, but can't find
Medal Card.

Anyone know anything about Thomas Battalion?
Cathy

rivergazer
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Post by rivergazer » Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:03 am

:) Hi Cathy

I think this is his medal card below. It seems his old regimental number was changed to a newer number.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/docu ... unt=291317

Hope this helps!

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Post by DavidWW » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:01 am

Hi Cathy

If you buy this image, I'd be intrigued to see it, in order to understand why he doesn't turn up indexed under 1/7<sup>th</sup> Battalion.

David

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Re: "Thomas Battalion" 1/7 Scottish Rifles

Post by Jack » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:18 pm

Hi Cathy,
By coincidence i got a record very early this morning for a good neighbour (Tricia); possibly her gr-father's medal record.
All she knew was that he was a sergeant in the Cameronians / Rifles,
and that at one time he looked after prisoners in Turkey? Or that he was looking after Turkish? prisoners...
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The Reg. Nos. of James Quin (3333 & 266366)
are very close to James Porter (3315 & 266354)
Looks like they certainly knew each other!
The downloaded page doesn't give much detail though - i'd hoped it would, but this is all it says.
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James Porter - Scottish Rifles
Reg. No. 3315 - Sergeant
Reg. No. 266354 - Sergeant
Medal: Victory - Roll D/103 B24. Page 2946
Medal: British - Roll do. Page do.
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James Porter was from Londonderry - but whether the county or town is not known.
He married in Glasgow 1922, and was born approx. 1888 to 1893.
His only surviving son, Jimmy (born in Whiteinch) doesn't even know exactly where or when.

All those around where i live know i've an interest in family history, and Tricia asked how she could find any details of her gr-father.
This came about when her 85yr old uncle Jimmy said to her one day that he still regrets losing the only known photo of his father.
What happened was that in the 1950s a photographer came to the door offering to take family photos.
Uncle Jimmy didn't need any (he's unmarried), but asked the man if could enlarge his father's photo.
He said yes, and took it away with him....never to be seen again, and Jimmy has rued the day ever since.

Tricia's GF died in 1947, before she was born,
and she now knows that there is very little chance now of ever seeing what he looked like.
She'd hoped the Army records might've had a photo...but alas, seems not.

So Cathy, if you know anything of where James Quinn served, i'd be much obliged if you could let me know.
Ta - Jack
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ps, here's the page for this James Porter.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/docu ... ultcount=1
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pps, Uncle Jimmy says, without being prompted, that his father James was in the 7th Batallion.
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Post by Cathy » Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:53 pm

Well Done Rivergazer!

Jack, I'm intrigued now. I've booked the chauffeur for next Saturday.
(Too late now to deny his golfing privilages for tomorrow).

I don't know if this James Quinn belongs (to my cousin).
Its the McKenna / Quinn / McLeod family I posted of previously.
I have just received a transcript of his death which states KIA France.

David, I will get a copy of the Medal Card regardless and try and scan a copy to you.
Cathy

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Post by DavidWW » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:33 pm

One of two things happened here, I think.

Either he served earlier with a regular or special reserve battalion, and was then transferred to the 1/7th, hence the different regimental numbers; or the different numbers derive from a reorganisation.

See http://www.regiments.org/regiments/uk/v ... /cam-7.htm for some clues..........

David

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Post by rivergazer » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:23 pm

His listing is under the regimental number 266366 on CWGC:

Name: QUINN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 1st/7th Bn.
Date of Death: 10/11/1918
Service No: 266366
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: In North-West corner.
Cemetery: HERCHIES COMMUNAL CEMETERY

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Post by rivergazer » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:32 pm

Hi Cathy

What a sad tragedy! going through all that fighting in WW1 to be killed in action the day before the Armistice.

It seems that Herchies cemetery is in Belguim.

Anne

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Post by AndrewP » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:45 pm

Hi Cathy,

The Scottish National War Memorial website http://www.snwm.org/ has the folowing details for him.

Surname: QUINN
Firstname: J
Service Number: 266366
Date Death: 10/11/1918
Place of birth: Glasgow
Other: 7th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE CAMERONIANS (SCOTTISH RIFLES)
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: Belgium.


All the best,

AndrewP

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Post by Cathy » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:57 pm

Thanks all.
All going well. I'll be at TNA next week.
I'm really just trying at the moment to verify if he does belong to my cousin. If its him, he was born James McKenna.
The old "clutching at straws" here.
The Poor Record that Annette found stated that his mother
Helen McKenna was in receipt of 12/- pension a week for un-named grandson.
So thinking the grandson's father must be either James or his
half-brother John Quin, but have yet to find a marriage for them.
Cathy