What Regiment ?

barkie · Post by **barkie** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:31 pm

Hi,
my gggg gf Alexander Livingstone's occupation is listed as Soldier on his daughters death certificate in 1858.

The only info i have is Esther was born in Ireland most likely Antrim in 1810.

I don't know if Alexander was Irish or Scottish and based in Ireland his wife was Mary Smart or Smartt.

Do you think there is any chance in finding what regiment he was in ?

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:55 pm

Hi Barkie
and welcome to Talking Scot

My guess would be that you might need to go searching for a bit more information on Alexander Livingstone first - e.g. do you have mention of him in any Scottish census or other census? Do you know where/when he died?

Did Esther have any brothers and/or sisters? Do you know where they were born?
Where did Esther die in 1858?

The more you can find out, the more likely it is that you may find some clues which may lead you to the answer. You may have all the above info already - if so, sharing it here might help us to shed some more light on Alexander.

Best wishes
Lesley

barkie · Post by **barkie** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:59 am

Hi Lesley

I don't really have any info other than names as i'm not too sure about tracing Irish records.

I have heard a lot of stuff is missing and it's a bit of a nightmare finding stuff.

All i know is Esther, James and there children moved to Airdrie to work in the iron mines sometime around 1840/41. They show up on the 1851 Census and their first child born in Scotland (Rawyards Airdrie). Place of birth for Esther and James is stated as Ireland. Esther died in 1858 in Mossnuck (never heard of this place maybe they mean mossnuek) and is burried at Wellwynd church in Airdrie on her cert it states father Alexander Livingstone (Soldier) deceased and Mother Mary Smart (Deceased).

I have tried checking SP for them but so far no results so maybe Alexander was Irish.

Someone who is doing the same tree states that they came from Antrim on his website but so far i haven't been able to contact him to see where this info comes from.

I will keep looking.

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:27 pm

This is the only matching record in the TNA on-line catalogue.

WO 97/842/166 ALEXANDER LIVISTON alias ALEXANDER LIVINGSTON Born OLD CHURCH, Renfrewshire Served in 72nd Foot Regiment Discharged aged 37 1825-1846 (that's not to say that there weren't others of that name, whose records haven't survived).

The 72nd were in Ireland 1825 - 1827, then back in 1843, - see http://www.regiments.org/deploy/uk/reg-inf/072-1.htm, so the daughter could have been born there. there should be an army birth record at GROS, maybe marriage as well.

How does the above info fit in with what you already have, - e.g. age at death of the daughter?

David

barkie · Post by **barkie** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:02 pm

Hi David,

You might be onto something, Esther would have been born in around 1810 according to her death cert and the 1851 Lanarkshire census. (I know dates can be out by a few yrs sometimes)

Only problem is was the 72nd in Ireland around 1810 or could he have been in another regiment then been transfered to the 72nd.?

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:36 pm

barkie wrote:Hi David,

You might be onto something, Esther would have been born in around 1810 according to her death cert and the 1851 Lanarkshire census. (I know dates can be out by a few yrs sometimes)

Only problem is was the 72nd in Ireland around 1810 or could he have been in another regiment then been transfered to the 72nd.?

I'm getting confused

If Esther was Alexander's daughter, and she was born ca. 1810, then the Alexander I found is not your man, as he was aged 37 in 1846 when he was discharged.

David

barkie · Post by **barkie** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:15 am

Sorry,

didn't read your reply correctly, well guess i will never find out the regiment.

thanks for looking.

StewL · Post by **StewL** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:54 am

Hi Barkie

I really do understand the big problem you have. I too have a lang deid 3 X ggrandfather who is down as a soldier on my 2 x ggrandfathers DC, my 2 x ggrandfather was born in the Americas so no hope of tracing him and I dont have any other siblings with places or dates to see where he might have dropped off the perch. Same with another 3 x ggrandfather in the other main line. I have tried the NAA but it is very, very difficult trying to work out which one is him.
I have put one of mine in the too hard brickwall basket, and even with a distant cousin searching for their information we havent got anywhere.
Did he live until the 1841 census?