3 Watsons to a page Eureka!
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3 Watsons to a page Eureka!
I had tried without success to find a Watson relative in Kilrenny. She appeared on the 1871 census but I could not track down her death record.
There was no Jessie Watson of that age. Time for a rethink! What other name might she be under. Obvious after 3 weeks searching (don't ask me how many credits on SP) I tried Janet and up it came!!! Now I know her parents, guesses turn into hard facts. Her son had registered her death and his address was also noted!!!
Down on the same page, third entry was another Janet Watson. Same age, died one day later. Who registered her death ? Her step-son-in-law same guy who registered myJanet Watson. Where did he live? same address as the second one. By this time my heid was birlin'
Another look at the record and in between these 2 old ladies was the death of a child Would you believe it her name was Jessie Watson. I should make it clear that not everyone in Kilrenny is called Janet/Jessie Watson!
Three on one page must make it something of a record !
For me it was time for a wee jig and maybe a celebratory hauf -or two. One page had tied together two branches of the family at a stroke. Something which a professional researcher who shares the name had not managed to do.
Moral of the story is keep trying but keep in mind that in Scotland what you were christened is not always what you were called. (Too late I learned that you could use wildcard ** on scotlandpeople)
My New Year wish will be that everyone on TalkingScot has as good a 'find' as I have had.
Russell
There was no Jessie Watson of that age. Time for a rethink! What other name might she be under. Obvious after 3 weeks searching (don't ask me how many credits on SP) I tried Janet and up it came!!! Now I know her parents, guesses turn into hard facts. Her son had registered her death and his address was also noted!!!
Down on the same page, third entry was another Janet Watson. Same age, died one day later. Who registered her death ? Her step-son-in-law same guy who registered myJanet Watson. Where did he live? same address as the second one. By this time my heid was birlin'
Another look at the record and in between these 2 old ladies was the death of a child Would you believe it her name was Jessie Watson. I should make it clear that not everyone in Kilrenny is called Janet/Jessie Watson!
Three on one page must make it something of a record !
For me it was time for a wee jig and maybe a celebratory hauf -or two. One page had tied together two branches of the family at a stroke. Something which a professional researcher who shares the name had not managed to do.
Moral of the story is keep trying but keep in mind that in Scotland what you were christened is not always what you were called. (Too late I learned that you could use wildcard ** on scotlandpeople)
My New Year wish will be that everyone on TalkingScot has as good a 'find' as I have had.
Russell
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Russell – Brill!!! I’m so pleased for you. I’ve had a number of dead ends myself of late and was feeling a wee bit disheartened, but your good luck just proves it’s all out there – just waiting for us to tap into it. Well done for your perseverance, and good luck for further great finds!
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Vee
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Whyte Grant Keith Roberts Low Wright Lamond Wilson Walker ANGUS
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Russell
An object lesson in the need to understand the manner in which various Scottish given names are interchangeable., e.g. Jane, Jean, Janet, Jeannie, Jessie, and a few more than occur to me at this time of Wednesday morning ...................... !!
There are many other such groups of cognate given names ....... never mind nicknames, but let's not get into that subject for the moment......
An object lesson as well, especially in small rural registration districts, to have a look at the other 1 or 2 records on the same page !!
David
An object lesson in the need to understand the manner in which various Scottish given names are interchangeable., e.g. Jane, Jean, Janet, Jeannie, Jessie, and a few more than occur to me at this time of Wednesday morning ...................... !!
There are many other such groups of cognate given names ....... never mind nicknames, but let's not get into that subject for the moment......
An object lesson as well, especially in small rural registration districts, to have a look at the other 1 or 2 records on the same page !!
David
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I've never come across a Polly, but a quick look at http://www.20000-names.com/female_m_names.htm gives:Russell wrote:Just on the topic of names . My mother (aged 94!) clarified for me today that a relative I knew as Pearl was christened Margaret. Since Margaret means a pearl she acquired the alternative name.
I still don't know how Mary Ann can become 'Polly'
Maybe the answer is out there somewhere???
Russell
MARY: Hebrew name meaning "bitter." Variants and diminutives include Mamie, May, Molly, and Polly.
David
Later: Oh yes I have, just a great-aunt, - Mary (Polly) JACK !!
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On the subject of nicknames, one clever so and so put one of the children down on a 1891 English census as "Toddles" ! who i assume is Martha on the 1901.How does Martha become Toddles ! ( dont be blaming the English for that one - they were Scottish parents !! )
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings
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Sequential Births on one Certificate
Three children born to James McDonald and Isabella Thomson were my lucky find, looking for a Helen Mcdonald I identified and sent for a copy of the OPR BC. Imagine my surprise to find on it's arrival the birth of 2 sons previously unknown to me. All were Registered on the same day with birth dates in 1833. 1835 and 1837. Now that what I call vaule for money.
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Tracey wrote:On the subject of nicknames, one clever so and so put one of the children down on a 1891 English census as "Toddles" ! who i assume is Martha on the 1901.How does Martha become Toddles ! ( dont be blaming the English for that one - they were Scottish parents !! )
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Russel and David
I dont know how is missed this thread, but a week before you found your long lost I finally found my paternal grannies birth. As you guessed she was always known as Jessie, but I finaly found her under her right name Janet Graham Anderson. Embarrased, who me naw much. I should have known better as my maternal grannie was known as Jeannie all her life but her birth name was Jane. So I should have known better
I dont know how is missed this thread, but a week before you found your long lost I finally found my paternal grannies birth. As you guessed she was always known as Jessie, but I finaly found her under her right name Janet Graham Anderson. Embarrased, who me naw much. I should have known better as my maternal grannie was known as Jeannie all her life but her birth name was Jane. So I should have known better
Stewie
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Searching for: Anderson, Balks, Barton, Courtney, Davidson, Downie, Dunlop, Edward, Flucker, Galloway, Graham, Guthrie, Higgins, Laurie, Mathieson, McLean, McLuckie, Miln, Nielson, Payne, Phillips, Porterfield, Stewart, Watson
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Re: 3 Watsons to a page Eureka!
Your perseverance is always inspiring.Russell wrote:I had tried without success to find a Watson relative in Kilrenny. She appeared on the 1871 census but I could not track down her death record.
There was no Jessie Watson of that age. Time for a rethink! What other name might she be under. Obvious after 3 weeks searching (don't ask me how many credits on SP) I tried Janet and up it came!!! Now I know her parents, guesses turn into hard facts. Her son had registered her death and his address was also noted!!!
Russell
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Dunn Fife /ML
Coutts, McGregor - Perth/Govan
Glen, Crow, Imrie - Angus
Scott & Pick ML
Mason - Co Down