What might these notations mean? .....

Post by **emanday** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:54 pm

Can anyone tell me what the notations next to the occupations might be? They look like money amounts in the old shillings/pence format.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-637

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:05 am

Hi Emanday
Just to clarify,this is a census page from 1901 - from where?

Best wishes
Lesley

Post by **AndrewP** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:07 am

I have no idea if you are right or wrong with your shillings and pennies money suggestion. My only comment is that it is not by the same pen as the enumerator used. Did all the entries on that page have similar notations? Any chance you could upload the full page?

All the best,

AndrewP

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:12 am

Hi Emanday

I doubt they are old (l.s.d.) amounts since the one after 'grocer' is for 20/1 which would be £ 1 and 1 penny. (I must be getting old if I remember that!)
Could we see the entire page to see if it gives other clues?

This one could get some good discussion going

Russell

Post by **paddyscar** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:27 am

Could this be from a Valuation Rolls worksheet? The vaulation rolls, identified the property, owner, tenant, tenant's occupation, Feu duty (£ S D) and Annual rent per tenant (£ S)

View valuation rolls: http://www.theglasgowstory.com/valsearc ... ton+street

Frances

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:57 am

As already suggested, it's nothing to do with money, - in any case, the census schedule didn't have a question that would have resulted in such information.

And as already pointed out, the hand is quite different, - it's most probably that of a clerk, abstracting statistical data later, possibly in this case in relation to occupations, - i.e. totalling the number in each occupation, or cross-referencing them to a list of occupations.

But these annotations could be to do with something completely different, - this area on the enumeration page just happened to be the only one where there's most often plenty of spare space

David

JimM · Post by **JimM** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:29 am

I think it must have been some sort of "occupation code"

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I have a 1901 census where there are...
a plasterers labourer 12/1 (the same code as the bricklayer in emandays page)
further down the page a plasterer who is also 12/1
4 cotton spinners who are 18/1
2 cotton net weavers who are also 18/1
a smiths hammerman who is a 10/2
and a wood cutter who is a 13/2

Jim

Post by **emanday** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:38 am

Here's the full page.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-638

It is for Rutherglen, Mid-Lanark (as it was then.)

My lot run onto the next page and the same notations seem to appear there too. The suggestion about occupations could be worth a bit of investigation as could the Valuations rolls thought.

I know they probably won't be significant to a family search, but these curious things make my brain hurt

until I find a solution (or finally accept there isn't one

).

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:40 pm

emanday wrote:.....snipped ..........
My lot run onto the next page and the same notations seem to appear there too. The suggestion about occupations could be worth a bit of investigation as could the Valuations rolls thought......snipped......

I can virtually guarantee you that there will be no connection with the valuation rolls.

David

Post by **emanday** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:21 pm

I can virtually guarantee you that there will be no connection with the valuation rolls.

Brain still hurting, though