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Post by SarahND » Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:22 pm

Alien wrote: What I have found very interesting is Andrew P's suggestion of only putting in the address of a property, not the person's name. Instead of getting a list of the people living in the street or area, you can pinpoint them to the house number if you have a house number.
And if the street name & number have been accurately transcribed in the Ancestry.com database... :roll: which is unfortunately not always the case! But I do appreciate being able to search with just a first name, or an age and birthplace, etc. It would be wonderful if the searches on Scotland's People could be as flexible.

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Post by Alien » Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:45 pm

Thanks, Sarah, I agree with you there.

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Post by SarahND » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:41 am

Just came up with the perfect example while searching this morning:
I was about to give up trying to find Robert Grieve in the 1871 census. He was a Surgeon, born 1822 in Kettle Fifeshire. Finally, in desperation, I searched only for the address where they were living in 1881... and there he was! But every detail was mistranscribed!!! :shock: First name, last name, year of birth, place of birth and occupation. :roll: here is how he looked:

Name: Rebe Grical
Age: 68
Relationship: Head
Where born: Keate, Fifeshire
Occupation: Micheal Perfers Genl Barteter L R R S. Echin

Mind you, it looks like it is correctly transcribed on Scotland's People, so this is strictly an Ancestry.com problem. If they didn't have a flexible search it would be really impossible!

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Post by Alien » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:14 pm

Well, done Sarah for finding you missing Robert Grieve. It's a great example.

I might have found a similar mistranscription on Ancestry recently. I'd been searching for a Mary Hendrie/Hendry or Henry and I suddenly realised she could be the Mary Erchie I'd found living with relatives. I don't know if this is her, but it does make you wonder.

Now you've given me the idea to look her up on Scotland's People and see how she is listed there.
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Post by Alien » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:32 pm

No luck Sarah, the name is clearly written on the 1871 Census Scotland's People website as Mary Erchie! Well, it was worth a try.
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Post by SarahND » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:44 pm

Hi Alien,
It's possible that the mistake is on the census form. If you do a search on Ancestry for Mary Erchie in Scotland, only one hit comes up-- the 1871 census! So I would be very surprised if that was her real name. Does everything else about the entry fit with your Mary Hendry?

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Post by Alien » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:00 pm

Im wondering if there is such a name as Erchie! No doubt someone will tell us if they know.

Her age on Ancestry's 1871 Census is 26 and the 1871 Census on Scotland's People isn't very clear, it could be either 24 or 26. I think she was born in 1855 which would have made her 16 in 1871. She is living with the Henderson family which is definitely part of my family tree and it's the first time I come across her (if it is her).

I can't find a birth certificate or any other information prior to her marriage in 1876 when she is 22. However, in 1899 her second marriage certificate states she is 40, which would mean she was born in 1899. Then on her death certificate in 1924 she is 69 making her birth 1855.

Her father was a soldier so presumably moved around but she appears to have been born in Glasgow. I haven't been able to find a marriage certificate for her parents although I know their names. Interestingly, I have had her father's military records researched and when he was dispatched he stated his destination would be Belfast. There is no mention of a wife or child.
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Post by joette » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:06 pm

Hi Alien -how's OK?
Erchie sounds like "Archie" in a Kelvingrove plum in my gob accent.Or Morningside for you East-Coasters.
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Post by Alien » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:23 pm

Aha! OK is OK! but it's near the west coast and believe it or not basking in beautiful afternoon sunshine. I know that's hard to believe, but for once it is.

Archie, right, that's a possibility too. How that comes from Hendry I don't know because the writing is very clear on the census form as Erchie, so maybe it is Archie and nothing to do with my Hendry (if you know what I mean) :lol:
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