Missing Dunns

Post by **Anne H** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:47 am

Hi Carol,

Looks like Christie to me.

Regards,
Anne H

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:31 am

Hi Carol,
Glad to have that confirmed!

It's a puzzle though, that William's death doesn't seem to show up anywhere (the only one I can find of the right age died in Glasgow City, which doesn't seem right). I suspect if one can find William and Isabella in 1861, that will point to his place of death. But again, nothing obvious. I was trying to think of where he might go, as a shepherd... Lots of Basque shepherds came to California about that time. But no sign of William. Could he and Isabella have tried to make a go in Australia, leaving the children behind with relatives, then he died and she came back? Wild guesses here

Regards,
Sarah

smiddykilry · Post by **smiddykilry** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:46 am

Good Morning
Well you have all been busy

on Williams (1852) marriage cert 1884 his father is not recorded as deceased but the fact that the family were split up by 1861 suggested that William or Isabella had died but at the moment I have no record of his death. They could have gone overseas between 1857 and 1861 William died then Isabella and kids came back, I have had the same thing with another family.

You've given me lots to get busy with (time to spend some dosh on SP)

Thanks Again
Smid

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:05 pm

Hi Smid,

Mary's marriage certificate shows William as deceased in 1876, but where is still a mystery.

Sarah,

One thing that has surprised my sister and I over and over again is how much some of these people moved around given what transportation was like in the 1800's. Our great aunt Jessie apparently went down to the dock, bought a ticket and sailed off to the US--five times! Another made the trip over when she was eight months pregnant. Go to Austrailia or China, sure, why not! The lesson for us is expect anything when you're looking for your relatives!

Carol

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:43 pm

Hi Carol

Another made the trip over when she was eight months pregnant.

Does not ever bear thinking about. No way would I have done that, ...even if offered a luxury cruise!!!

In a similar vein, I have one lady who left Scotland for Canada in 1889, aged 82 (!) Again, not what you'd expect....

(took me a while to find that one, as I was convinced she'd not be moving anywhere and MUST have died in Scotland!!)

Best wishes
Lesley

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:21 pm

Hi Lesley,
My great aunt took her long anticipated trip to Scotland from the U.S. when she was in her 80's. She lived to be 96, so she still had plenty of time to go over her memories after she got back!

Cheers,
Sarah

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:52 pm

Here's an Isabella Dun from the 1861 Census who could be the daughter shown on the 1851 and 1871 Census records:

Name: Isabella Dun
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Cupar Fife, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 387/1
Registration district: Perth Burgh
Civil Parish: Perth Burgh
County: Perthshire
Address: 3 Barossa Place
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 27
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1861_51

Household Members: Name Age

Margaret McNaughton 40
Elizabeth McNaughton 77
Phemy McNaughton 30
Caroline McNaughton 27
Eliza Wilson 22
Ellen Scott 18
Alice Broughton 15
Mary Cunningham 17
Cecilia Cadden 15
Isabella Dun 14
Mary Burst 10
Cecelia Bagge 15
Catherine J Troup 13
Charlotte Troup 10
Ellen Troup 8
Florence Driver 10
Alice Driver 8
Murray Driver 7
Catherine Whyte 70
Mary Wilkinson 47
Agnes Angus 24
Ellen Bain 21
Mary Ann McLean 12
Colin R Troup 12
John R Troup 11

It would be interesting to know what kind of boarding facility this was.

Carol

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:01 pm

Hi Smid,

Do you know if Isabella Bowman Dunn had any sisters? If she did and one of them married a Neish, then this could be Isabella living and working with their family in 1861 and either using their name or being given that by mistake on the census takers part?

Name: Isabella Neish
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relationship: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Cupar, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 420
Registration district: Cupar
Civil Parish: Cupar
Town: Cupar
County: Fife
Address: 90 Bonnygate
Occupation: Drepmaker
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 63
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1861_54

Household Members: Name Age

Janet Scotland 58
Susanna R Greaves 29
Robort Auld 27
John Thomas Scotland 13
Horine R Greaver 4 Mo
Jane Gibson 20
Alexander Farmer 74
Helen Farmer 70
Hay Farmer 40
Andrew Murey Williamson 35
Agnes Williamson 35
George Williamson 9
Margaret Williamson 7
Agnes Williamson 5
Stephen Williamson 3
Henry Williamson 11 Mo

Helen Neish 47
Ann Neish 45
Isabella Neish 36
Betsy Neish 33
Isabella Marwell 66

Carol

Post by **AndrewP** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:30 pm

speleobat2 wrote:It would be interesting to know what kind of boarding facility this was.

The older people on that page included teachers and governesses, so looks like a boarding school.

Household Members: Name Age

Margaret McNaughton 40 teacher (head)
Elizabeth McNaughton 77 (aunt)
Phemy McNaughton 30 teacher (sister)
Caroline McNaughton 27 governess (sister)
Eliza Wilson 22 governess
Ellen Scott 18 governess
Alice Broughton 15 scholar
Mary Cunningham 17 scholar
Cecilia Cadden 15 scholar
Isabella Dun 14 scholar
Mary Burst 10 scholar
Cecelia Bagge 15 scholar
Catherine J Troup 13 scholar
Charlotte Troup 10 scholar
Ellen Troup 8 scholar
Florence Driver 10 scholar
Alice Driver 8 scholar
Murray Driver 7 scholar
Catherine Whyte 70 housekeeper
Mary Wilkinson 47 general serv
Agnes Angus 24 cook
Ellen Bain 21 table maid
Mary Ann McLean 12 table maid
Colin R Troup 12 scholar
John R Troup 11 scholar

All the best,

AndrewP

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:34 pm

Thanks Andrew,

That's much more encouraging than the poorhouse!

Carol