Looking for ancestors of John Taylor born in Scone 1788...
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Colin Peterson
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Hello Colin,
I’ve come across a number of postings from someone in South Africa who appears to have researched the Taylor family and John Taylor’s birth fairly extensively over quite a number of years, including several visits to Scone for the purpose. The only source quoted for the date and place of birth is a submission on the IGI. See these pages and several on the ukvillages site.
http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/rea ... 0998213193
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/t ... 0987232944
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&a ... arch&meta=
He seems to have covered a lot of ground and may now have something a bit more substantial than the IGI submission. Perhaps it would be worthwhile contacting him to see what additional information he has.
Parts of the main posting are:
The John Taylor Heritage During the 19th century two Taylors, unknown to each other at their points of departure but destined to have a significant influence in the destiny of the Eastern Cape, came to South Africa as missionaries of the London Missionary Society. They were, as all other preachers of their time, in the employ of the Cape Colony, both served Cradock as ministers of religion. John Taylor was born on 5 June 1788 and died on 18 June 1860. [The International Genealogical Index produced by the Mormons (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) recorded as follows: Taylor, John; Father; Taylor. Perth, Scone. Born 7 June 1788 He was the minister of the Dutch Reformed Church at Cradock from 1824 to 1860. Robert Barry Taylor, an Englishman was born in 1810 and died in 1876 and the minister of the largely non-white Independent Church, the Congregational Church, from 1848 to 1876. (Of interest is Rev. RB Taylor's burial place, which is beneath the pulpit of the church.) This genealogy covers the family history of John Taylor the Scot. Robert Taylor, the Englishman will however receive his rightful recognition. SCONE, SCOTLAND, THE PLACE OF BIRTH Born in Scone, Perthshire, Scotland, John Taylor had experienced the transformation of Old Scone. ………………………………………………………… John Taylor, after completed his missionary studies in Gosport under the guidance of Rev. David Bogue, was ordained in March 1816 in Chichester. Towards the end of October 1816, together with seven other London Missionary Society missionaries, including Robert Moffat (destined to achieve fame in Bechuanaland), Kitchingman, Brownlee and Evans left the coast of England, on board the Alacrity and sailed for South Africa. In the words of the Secretary of the LMS These missionaries go to the Colony to assist in teaching the natives and in promoting agriculture, civilisation and good order On board was also two Dutch-speaking ministers of Cape origin; the ideal opportunity for the Scots to improve their Dutch speaking abilities. A testimony to this, Lord Somerset towards the end of 1818 stated: Rev. Taylor speaks Dutch with great fluency. John Taylor wrote a full account of the voyage, signed by his colleagues and sent it to the LMS head- quarters in London. If you can add more, please contact me!
The Christian Herald, 1816, has details of ordination, farewell and departure etc
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=2fI ... tations%22 He was ordained at Chichester and sent to South Africa by the London Missionary Society etc more or less as set out above.
I can’t recall seeing any old documents saying that he was a Scot, although several of his companions were, or anything about his family’s religion, or anything at all about his early life.
I’ll send you a PM with a list of links to have a look at. There’s nothing particularly interesting just bits and pieces you can put together.
All the best,
Alan
I’ve come across a number of postings from someone in South Africa who appears to have researched the Taylor family and John Taylor’s birth fairly extensively over quite a number of years, including several visits to Scone for the purpose. The only source quoted for the date and place of birth is a submission on the IGI. See these pages and several on the ukvillages site.
http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/rea ... 0998213193
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/t ... 0987232944
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&a ... arch&meta=
He seems to have covered a lot of ground and may now have something a bit more substantial than the IGI submission. Perhaps it would be worthwhile contacting him to see what additional information he has.
Parts of the main posting are:
The John Taylor Heritage During the 19th century two Taylors, unknown to each other at their points of departure but destined to have a significant influence in the destiny of the Eastern Cape, came to South Africa as missionaries of the London Missionary Society. They were, as all other preachers of their time, in the employ of the Cape Colony, both served Cradock as ministers of religion. John Taylor was born on 5 June 1788 and died on 18 June 1860. [The International Genealogical Index produced by the Mormons (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) recorded as follows: Taylor, John; Father; Taylor. Perth, Scone. Born 7 June 1788 He was the minister of the Dutch Reformed Church at Cradock from 1824 to 1860. Robert Barry Taylor, an Englishman was born in 1810 and died in 1876 and the minister of the largely non-white Independent Church, the Congregational Church, from 1848 to 1876. (Of interest is Rev. RB Taylor's burial place, which is beneath the pulpit of the church.) This genealogy covers the family history of John Taylor the Scot. Robert Taylor, the Englishman will however receive his rightful recognition. SCONE, SCOTLAND, THE PLACE OF BIRTH Born in Scone, Perthshire, Scotland, John Taylor had experienced the transformation of Old Scone. ………………………………………………………… John Taylor, after completed his missionary studies in Gosport under the guidance of Rev. David Bogue, was ordained in March 1816 in Chichester. Towards the end of October 1816, together with seven other London Missionary Society missionaries, including Robert Moffat (destined to achieve fame in Bechuanaland), Kitchingman, Brownlee and Evans left the coast of England, on board the Alacrity and sailed for South Africa. In the words of the Secretary of the LMS These missionaries go to the Colony to assist in teaching the natives and in promoting agriculture, civilisation and good order On board was also two Dutch-speaking ministers of Cape origin; the ideal opportunity for the Scots to improve their Dutch speaking abilities. A testimony to this, Lord Somerset towards the end of 1818 stated: Rev. Taylor speaks Dutch with great fluency. John Taylor wrote a full account of the voyage, signed by his colleagues and sent it to the LMS head- quarters in London. If you can add more, please contact me!
The Christian Herald, 1816, has details of ordination, farewell and departure etc
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=2fI ... tations%22 He was ordained at Chichester and sent to South Africa by the London Missionary Society etc more or less as set out above.
I can’t recall seeing any old documents saying that he was a Scot, although several of his companions were, or anything about his family’s religion, or anything at all about his early life.
I’ll send you a PM with a list of links to have a look at. There’s nothing particularly interesting just bits and pieces you can put together.
All the best,
Alan
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Colin Peterson
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