James Watson Payne, Glasgow to America.

StewL · Post by **StewL** » Sat May 02, 2009 2:05 am

Rita
Good news, I have the banter between you Jack and myself, it wasn't lost after all

The other day I took a punt and got an OPR death and burial record for My Robert Laurie under Robert Lowrie in 1839 which was the date his death was given in a poor relief record for Mary Irvine

So looks like I finally got the right one.
Reading Jacks messages your Paynes appear to have a Liverpool/Ireland connection, which is where my Mary Irvine was born (Liverpool) and also William Laurie then of course Ireland crops up. So thanks to this thread I believe I now have my Robert Laurie's (Lowrie) death/burial information.

Hope this message isn't too confusing, excitement stepped in

Sorry for hijacking this thread with my stuff

Currie · Post by **Currie** » Sat May 02, 2009 6:51 am

Hello All,

A search for “Wade Bishop Ellis” in Google Books brings up “The Michigan Alumnus‎” 1930, - Page 497
“After interning at Rochester General Hospital for two years and the Woman's Hospital, New York City, for one year, WADE BISHOP ELLIS, '26, '28m, ….
His exact death date appears in another book snippet but I can’t find an obit in the NYT.

In the Washington Post 13th January, 1937, at a reception for President Roosevelt, there’s a Mr. and Mrs. Wade B. Ellis, the latter in white chiffon, diamond tiara, etc.

The NY Times, 7th December, 1938, has an obit for a Hannah P. Hutton, wife of John Hutton, mother of R. J. H. Hutton of Buffalo, N. Y., and others. She lived at 151-14 33d Ave., Flushing. (Maybe Hannah is Mother-in-Law of the Hutton on the 1930 notice??)

That’s about all I can pick up at the moment,

All the best,
Alan

rita · Post by **rita** » Sun May 03, 2009 9:46 am

Thanks for sending the articles Alan they came through nice and clear.
Mrs R.C.HOWET has me stumped as Mrs Robert Rowan. pity they didn't give the ladies their first names.
Stewie, it was Samuels' dad who was born in Liverpool also called Samuel.
I have a death of a daughter of your RoseAnne and George Payne (the first) both parents deceased.
Maria Payne (single) age 17, 1899 August 3rd
she died in Barnhill Poorhouse usual residence ------ Blank.
she died of Status Epileticus
Assistant governer was the informant.
Rita.

StewL · Post by **StewL** » Sun May 03, 2009 11:40 pm

Thanks Rita
I will have to sort out Maria's marriages one day

rita · Post by **rita** » Mon May 04, 2009 6:51 pm

Hi Stewie,
RoseAnn Payne Nee Watson had a birth April 6th 1881.
Mary Watson Payne.
680 Duke St Glasgow
Father George Payne Cork-cutter (Journeyman)
Parents married 1870 Dec 21st Glasgow.
Another one
Janet Payne (illigitimate)
Born 1883 July 14th
65 Tylefield? Street Glasgow.
Parents. George Payne Cork-cutter (journeyman)
I think this George Payne was the cousin.
Rose Ann Watson housekeeper.
(Widow of George Payne Cork-cutter journeyman who died in Royal Infirmary Glasgow on 29th July 1880)
Rita.

StewL · Post by **StewL** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:41 pm

Thanks Rita
They fair kept it in the family didn't they

rita · Post by **rita** » Wed May 06, 2009 8:59 am

Hi All,
I think I have found Samuels' brother James Watson Payne.
From Roots Web WorldConnect.
James Watson Payne.
Birth 17th July 1886 in Glasgow, Scotland. (same birth)
Death 5TH April 1943 in Palmer, Mass.
Immigration: Bet 1912 and 1917 from Bordeax, France.
Marriage to Clara Balmer 5th Oct 1920 in Stamford, Connecticut.
Claras' birth 15th March 1890 Stamford, Connecticut.

Stewie you may have this.
Death: District of Dennistoun, Lanark.
James Payne: age 1yr 8 months: Measles-6 days : Pneumonia.
Feb 6th 1887: Barnhill Poorhouse.
Usual Residence: 20 Marlborough St.
Parents: George Payne.
Ann Payne : previously Payne: M.S. Watson.
Rita.