looking for William Middleton.....

[StewL]

Lee

Don’t discard the fact that the vast majority of emigrants to the colonies departed from English ports. I may be wrong but very few would have been listed as departing from Scottish ports. As the shipping information is based on the departure from the last landfall in a country and not where it originally sailed from. If the ship did indeed sail from Scotland it would by necessity stop at an English port to pick up final supplies, cargo and passengers. Hence voyage then would commence from “Liverpool” to its destination in whatever part of the far flung globe.

[DavidWW]

I'd agree in terms of the destination being anywhere East of Suez, and, in fact, between the UK and Suez for that matter.

However, for N American destinations, it was a detour for a ship departing from the Clyde to call in at Liverpool or other English ports so that such a detour is unlikely to have happened unless there was a good profit in it. e.g. it would cost a nearly full ship leaving the Clyde more than it was worth.

On the other hand it wasn't a detour for such a ship to call in at Belfast or (London)Derry or other Ulster ports.................

David

[Jack]

Hi Lee,
I hadn't realised your family left Scotland before 1841, and therefore, unluckily, it's unlikely there will be a record (well not on a census).
The Census link from the TS Home Page explains matters.
http://www.talkingscot.com/censuses/census-intro.htm
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There are the very occasional "private" censuses and similar type records.
Like for eg, The Rev. Landsborough's in Stevenston, Ayrshire for years 1819, 1822, 1836.
But these would be of no use for Glasgow.
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The 1820 marriage that Annette found might be the only "official" record of William McIntosh & Janet / Jane Thomson.
It's also as an LDS submission (as are these 4 children mentioned by Annette).

SARAH THOMSON MCINTOSH - Birth: 1820 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
AGNES FRANCES MCINTOSH - Birth: 1821 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland - Death: 29 MAY 1891
MONA MARGARET MCINTOSH - Birth: 1823 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
ALEXANDER THOMSON MCINTOSH - Birth: 1826 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland - Death: 1885
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Can only suggest trying to contact the submitter of the marriage & births who may have more info?
I don't know how you go about doing this, but someone will. Maybe ask at your local LDS Family Centre?

Just sorry it wasn't better news - Jack

[StewL]

David

Good point made

I must confess I was "regionally biased" with my post, having come via the Suez myself
Not via the cape on a clipper aaaaaaaarrrr! Jim lad
I came when ships were made of steel and men were made of wood

[DavidWW]

David

Good point made

I must confess I was "regionally biased" with my post, having come via the Suez myself
Not via the cape on a clipper aaaaaaaarrrr! Jim lad
I came when ships were made of steel and men were made of wood

Instead of ships made of wood and men of steel ?!

David

[StewL]

Spot on David!!

[Thrall]

I'd agree in terms of the destination being anywhere East of Suez, and, in fact, between the UK and Suez for that matter.

However, for N American destinations, it was a detour for a ship departing from the Clyde to call in at Liverpool or other English ports so that such a detour is unlikely to have happened unless there was a good profit in it. e.g. it would cost a nearly full ship leaving the Clyde more than it was worth.

On the other hand it wasn't a detour for such a ship to call in at Belfast or (London)Derry or other Ulster ports.................

However I find it amazing the amount of towing that was done at the end of the 19th. century to get a sailing ship to a cargo. A barque I have a particular interest in was launched at Birrels in Dumbarton 1889, towed to Liverpool, loaded, sailed to San Francisco and back to Liverpool. The next voyage, each took a year, to SF ended at Le Havre whence she was towed back to Liverpool. On one later occasion she waited fully laden at Birkenhead for six weeks for suitable weather to be towed down the Irish Sea and cast off, taking another couple of months to cross the pond to New York.

BTW, I can´t recommend too highly "The Last Grain Race" by Eric Newby for anyone interested in the last days of sail or in a way of life drawing to a close, or just looking for an excellent read. Can be found cheaply at Amazon.

Thrall

[natae]

Thanks everyone it looks like it could be the same family I had a death date for Alexander of 1885 in Parramatta NSW AUS a couple of the other names match the witnesses names on Janet's marriage cert the only one I didn't find was Mona the only passenger list I found didn't give any details to birth or deaths on board so may be this is were the record of Mona & Janet are thanks again
Lee

[natae]

Hi me again I noticed that where you found a Mona as 1 of the children for Janet & William Mcintosh I have a Thomas on the passenger list now I wonder what the chances are they lived in England for a short time befor coming here
Lee

[trish1]

Hi lee

I just noticed your post which said your family may have travelled on the Othello arriving 1834. One of my Scottish families came on the Othello. They started at Paisley and travelled from Glasgow to Liverpool by ship, then boarded the Othello. It was some weeks late leaving Liverpool because of the weather. My ancestor kept a diary of the trip, which has survived and another of his descendants published the diary in a family book in the 1970s. I can give you the exact dates for the trip if you require same.

Trish