SCOTTISH NAMING.....

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ninatoo
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Post by ninatoo » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:44 am

OK - you've got me interested now!....who is your Margaret McCulloch? Do you know her d.o.b? place of birth? And who was Thomas Carson's father-in-law?
lbathgate...hehe, I was using my Thomas' kids as an example, because I remembered off the top of my head that he had two children named after grandmothers.

Thomas Carson, son of John Carson (b. 1830-35 Ireland) and Mary Hyslop (b. 1833 Ireland) was born in Ireland about 1852, likely in Co. Down.

In 1873 he married Elizabeth Crombie in Rathfriland, Ballyroney, Co. Down, Ireland.

Elizabeth (b. about 1852) was the daughter of James Crombie and Margaret McCulloch b. about 1825.

Thomas' daughter Margaret McCulloch Carson was born in 1882 in Irvine Ayr.

I take it you may have thought you have a connection. If so, please don't hesitate to PM me.

Nina

wini
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Scottish Naming

Post by wini » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:33 am

I think this must be something long gone.
I was born in 1939 and My Middle name is McPhee my Maternal Grandmothers MS
My Brother nine years younger than me has Reid as his middle name MY Paternal Grandmothers MS
I have only carried this on in my children in my oldest daughter has Catherine as her middle name my mothers name and my son has Munro as his middle name my MS. They have not carried this on to their children

wini
Munro, McPhee, Gunn, Reid, McCreadie, Jackson, Cree, McFarland,Gillies,Gebbie,McCallum,Dawson
Glasgow, Durness,Kilmuir via Uig, Logie Easter
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JimM
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Post by JimM » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:11 am

Just in case anyone wants to know current naming patterns :-k

1st son - after the dads favourite footballer
2nd son - after lead singer in mothers favourite boy-band
3rd son - after character in dads favourite action film (or x-box game)


1st daughter - after any Australian teenage soap star
2nd daughter - Chantelle (or any name that ends in elle)
3rd daughter - after dads favourite football team

Just a bit of fun :- O:)

Jim
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McIntyre, Menzies, Cowley, Pearson, Copland, McCammond, Forbes, Edgar etc. in Scotland
Skinner in Northumberland

CatrionaL
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Post by CatrionaL » Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:04 pm

Thanks Jim!

:D

In one case, in our family, the given name of the favourite footballer was a surname that had been in the family for x generations. The Dad in question didn't know that :D

I discovered the fact through Family Research!

Catriona

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Post by joette » Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:14 pm

Or in my family where elder sister has
1 Eldest son her Maiden name as his christian name.
2Younger son with her Middle name as Christian name-also Maternal Granny's maiden name.
Younger sister.
1Eldest son with Christian name of husband's Father also maternal grandfather's Chritian name followed by our Dad's" Sunday " name(John was always known as Ian.)& christian name of maternal Uncle.Which gives him the name of a fictional TV character(Klingons on the starboard side!)
2Younger son-christian name Mother's middle name which is also paternal Granny's middle name & her Granny's maiden name(can you keep up?) middle name his Father's followed by our Father's everyday name(Ian).
The girls all have their own Christian names with the addition of a few family ones & one which just sounds nice together.
Researching:SCOTT,Taylor,Young,VEITCH LINLEY,MIDLOTHIAN
WADDELL,ROSS,TORRANCE,GOVAN/DALMUIR/Clackmanannshire
CARR/LEITCH-Scotland,Ireland(County Donegal)
LINLEY/VEITCH-SASK.Canada
ALSO BROWN,MCKIMMIE,MCDOWALL,FRASER.
Greer/Grier,Jenkins/Jankins

DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:47 pm

JimM wrote:Just in case anyone wants to know current naming patterns :-k

1st son - after the dads favourite footballer

....snipped .....

Jim
Even, on occasion the full team :!: :shock:

David
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Post by DavidWW » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:59 pm

Five other possibilities to take into account in terms of given and/or middle names.

1. The first child baptised by a new minister was, by tradition, named after him.

2. If the birth had been particularly difficult but the baby survived, the name of the doctor or midwife was used.

3. The name of a very close but unrelated family friend was used.

4. The provision of the legacy of a will.

5. National or even international events as regards war heros, silver or other jubilees of monarchs, etc., etc., - in this case my advice is to research the history of the period, - obvious events such as the various jubilees of Queen Victoria, or, - you would not believe it, - the number of wains with the middle name Mafeking following the Relief of the said place, or the name of the commander of the relieving forces, - (Lord) Roberts, or the commander of those besieged, - Baden-Powell, - yes, he who founded the Scouting movement .......... etc., etc., etc.

David

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Post by paddyscar » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:10 pm

Good one, JimM! :lol:

I feel for those children, and especially for the ones whose parents think it's "cute" to make up names, or use 'creative spelling' :(

Then, there are the genealogists of the future - what a puzzle for them :? :shock:

I've had a lifetime of mis-spellings of my name and " 'i' is for him, and 'e' is for her" has become my mantra.

francEs :wink:
John Kelly (b 22 Sep 1897) eldest child of John Kelly & Christina Lipsett Kelly of Glasgow

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Post by DavidWW » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:15 pm

paddyscar wrote:I've had a lifetime of mis-spellings of my name and " 'i' is for him, and 'e' is for her" has become my mantra.

francEs :wink:
Hi Frances

That does indeed work, but only most of the time :!:

In other words, I'm come across a male Frances, and a female Francis :!: :!:

David

LesleyB
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Post by LesleyB » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:17 pm

I've had a lifetime of mis-spellings of my name and " 'i' is for him, and 'e' is for her" has become my mantra.
Same problems all my life too!

...either that or I'm called Lindsay! Both Scots surnames, both start with L...

best wishes
Lesley
but there are some female Leslies just to make life difficult! I think Leslie Ash is one.
Researching:
Midlothian & Fife - Goalen, Lawrie, Ewart, Nimmo, Jamieson, Dick, Ballingall.
Dunbartonshire- Mcnicol, Davy, Guy, McCunn, McKenzie.
Ayrshire- Lyon, Parker, Mitchell, Fraser.
Easter Ross- McCulloch, Smith, Ross, Duff, Rose.