Robert Wilson, cant find the right one.....

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Post by anner » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:42 am

Hi Mary,
Really sorry about the opr post, I hadnt set up notify post and have just read it. Oh my God, I think you are right with the Butterworths. On Sarahs death cert in 1957 her mother is listed as, Guess what, Maria! What a star you are.
If you are able to follow them back I would be so grateful, as any info is gratefully recieved. I am amazed as I wouldnt have put Maria into a search engine, but am now learning to adjust names.
I had an instance trying to find a Jean in Scotland. As she was listed as Jean on a census, I looked for her birth cert. I never found her, I then typed in Jane and found her. So I am learning.
Again Thank you so much.
Anne
:)
Researching Wilson, Reid, S(c)later and Ross in Glasgow. Mcgregor, Ross, White, Pirie, Gaffney, and Math(i)e(w)son and Ross in Dundee and Perth.
Yorkshire: Butterworth, Todd, Angell, Bearpark and Nutbrown. To name but a few.

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Re: Robert Wilson, cant find the right one

Post by ian beaton jack » Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:58 am

ian beaton jack wrote:
anner wrote:My G.Grandfather, Robert Wilson married Janet Slater in 1885. On the marraige cert. it says he was living at Maryhill Barracks, 21 years old and a gunner in the Royal Field Artillery. I have found both birth and death certificates for his wife, then the problem starts.

I cannot find a Robert and Janet Wilson on any of the census',and I cannot find a birth or death cert. for Robert.

I have found both of their children on the 1901 census living with Janets parents but no mention of them.
I also cannot find anything on Roberts parents, Thomas and Mary Wilson (looks like Tyre) as stated on Roberts marraige certificate.

After hours and hours of trawling through SP every thing I open is not the right one . Has anyone got any ideas on what next?
Thanking everyone in advance.
i am having problems with my robert wilson too,(no relation to yours) my one was born 1815 in the black isle(have record)died 1849,just before the government took over the records,and as l.d.s. don't seem to record deaths i can find no trace of him,i do have confirmation of his death from family records,and where, but nothing official, sorry this isin't of any help to you , but i'm sure someone somewhere will have an idea.
ian jack
hi anner,i have just found my robert wilson,but not as i thought it would be,he is in the 1851 census at munlochy with his family,i had been told he had died 1849.so that is progress except there is no trace of him after that,found his widow and family in the 1861 census,there is just that gap 1851-1855 which has to be bridged
have you had any success.
ian

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Post by anner » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:23 pm

Hi Ian,
I wish I had the same luck as you. My Robert is a real mystery man. I have now opened all R. Wilsons on S.P at great expense for a death cert. guess what not one is him.
As I knew he had been in the army I went and looked at his attestation papers at the National Archives. I knew it was the right one as he had a marraige cert. with it and the army number matched that.
Turns out he had deserted in 1900 for whatever reason, not a problem for me being it was over a hundred years ago.
Having a friend working for the military college I got her to ask why he had no demob papers and it turns out that the army never found him.
So thinking I may find him on the census for 1901 opened every R. Wilson of about the right age and from Scotland or Irelnd. Not there. I then looked for the wife Janet, again couldnt find her. Of course they may have gome straight back to Scotland, but wont know until the next census comes out to find who their children are with.
The thoughts that I have now is if he wasnt back in Scotland he may have laid low, but would have had to do that for the rest of his time. Also taking into account that the name clark had appeared on his wifes death cert. have looked for him under that name but to no avail.
I would sure like to unravel this one man as he is a real mystery.
I am glad you have found yours, may be mine will be next.
Regards
Anner. :)
Researching Wilson, Reid, S(c)later and Ross in Glasgow. Mcgregor, Ross, White, Pirie, Gaffney, and Math(i)e(w)son and Ross in Dundee and Perth.
Yorkshire: Butterworth, Todd, Angell, Bearpark and Nutbrown. To name but a few.

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Attestation Papers

Post by mac » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:39 pm

Can anyone enlighten me as to whether Attestation Papers for Scottish soldiers are available at Scottish National Archives ?

thank you,

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Post by anner » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:48 pm

hi mac
As far as I am aware they hold all the records but you cant get ww2 yet.
My Robert was born and enlisted in Ireland, moved with the army to Scotland. If his papers are there I am sure the ones from scotland are too.
I put a notice on the Great War Forum and they told me where to look. Otherwise you could put a post in the forum here and I am sure someone will be able tell you.
I did my search through the N.A at Kew. I went onto the N.A. site and did a search there. It them told me which boxes to look in. The people were very helpful as well.
I am not sure what the Scottish National Archives hold as I am in the south of England.
Regards
Anner.
Last edited by anner on Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Researching Wilson, Reid, S(c)later and Ross in Glasgow. Mcgregor, Ross, White, Pirie, Gaffney, and Math(i)e(w)son and Ross in Dundee and Perth.
Yorkshire: Butterworth, Todd, Angell, Bearpark and Nutbrown. To name but a few.

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Post by ian beaton jack » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:48 pm

anner wrote:Hi Ian,
I wish I had the same luck as you. My Robert is a real mystery man. I have now opened all R. Wilsons on S.P at great expense for a death cert. guess what not one is him.
As I knew he had been in the army I went and looked at his attestation papers at the National Archives. I knew it was the right one as he had a marraige cert. with it and the army number matched that.
Turns out he had deserted in 1900 for whatever reason, not a problem for me being it was over a hundred years ago.
Having a friend working for the military college I got her to ask why he had no demob papers and it turns out that the army never found him.
So thinking I may find him on the census for 1901 opened every R. Wilson of about the right age and from Scotland or Irelnd. Not there. I then looked for the wife Janet, again couldnt find her. Of course they may have gome straight back to Scotland, but wont know until the next census comes out to find who their children are with.
The thoughts that I have now is if he wasnt back in Scotland he may have laid low, but would have had to do that for the rest of his time. Also taking into account that the name clark had appeared on his wifes death cert. have looked for him under that name but to no avail.
I would sure like to unravel this one man as he is a real mystery.
I am glad you have found yours, may be mine will be next.
Regards
Anner. :)
here's hoping its just around the next page. thanks anner, remember if you want look ups.get in touch,
ian

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Post by anner » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:56 pm

Hi Ian
Thanks again, you are giving me a bit of hope as you have had a similar problem to me. Going to keep looking as he has to be somewhere. Unless of course the aliens abducted him. :shock: . But I dont think I can use that one as an excuse. He He.
Happy hunting.
Regards
Anner.
Researching Wilson, Reid, S(c)later and Ross in Glasgow. Mcgregor, Ross, White, Pirie, Gaffney, and Math(i)e(w)son and Ross in Dundee and Perth.
Yorkshire: Butterworth, Todd, Angell, Bearpark and Nutbrown. To name but a few.

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Post by ian beaton jack » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:59 pm

anner wrote:Hi Ian
Thanks again, you are giving me a bit of hope as you have had a similar problem to me. Going to keep looking as he has to be somewhere. Unless of course the aliens abducted him. :shock: . But I dont think I can use that one as an excuse. He He.
Happy hunting.
Regards
Anner.
more likely to be leprachauns.
ian

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Attestation Papers

Post by mac » Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:35 pm

Hi Anner

Thanks for taking the trouble to reply and for the detailed answer.

I'm actually looking for any information on the service record of my grandfather, Robert Paterson (b Bathgate, 1860) who joined the Highland Light Infantry c1878 and apparently served for over 30 years - in, I think, the 2nd Battalion.

I wonder if anyone could point me in the right direction as to who/where I would find any relevant information.

mac

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Post by ian beaton jack » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:34 pm

anner wrote:Thank you Ian.
I wish Wilson Wasnt such a common name though. As I have the father of Robert down as Thomas and his mother is Mary I will have to start looking at Irish links as well. Not sure if that is as easy as it sounds as I have got two surnames for his mother, one being Mcintyre and the one on his attestation papers is hard to read. Never mind though, I am going to give it a go.
Anner.
as i said before i have hunted for robert wilson(g.g.father )got his birth cert. and then silence,after lots of credits being whittled away, i looked for his wife (catherine bethune) in the 1851 census, and there was robert shown as head of the family, very strange, i then hunted for his death cert,known to be 1858/9. but without trace, i then entered just wilson and birth date and there he was, with all the details. but register house had him named as "richard wilson" for some reason. i was just about to give up,but this gives me fresh way of hunting.
very misleading.
how is your hunt going??
ian