Moses Joel.....

momat · Post by **momat** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:48 am

Try this site for your Joel family.
I think you will find them here

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases

Cheers.
JJ

Post by **Tracey** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:39 pm

Hello Maureen

Thanks. I was looking at that site yesterday and considering he was the first reverend of...............i would have expected to find more than a few words about him on any site or maybe i havnt found the right one yet. The only thing that puts me off this site is if you want to have a good nose around at message boards etc you have to sign in and give your full details. Any "free"site that wants my address i am wary of and usually give a false one and let them sell that to the junkmailers !

Tracey

gzmcwherter · Post by **gzmcwherter** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:50 pm

Tracey,
I was helping a friend trace the Jewish side of his family a few years ago, and I signed up with the jewishgen folks in order to access their databases. I've never gotten any spam from them.
(After seeing some of the anti-semitic things that pop up when searching anything having to do with jews, I assumed asking for personal info was an attempt to keep the crackpots out of their site...)
Regards,
Gina

Post by **Tracey** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:59 pm

Hi Gina

I didnt think of that happening

, good point.

momat · Post by **momat** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:33 pm

Hi Tracey,

You will have no problems with this site.It is Kosher !
You only get feed back on what you enter .No SPAM.
There is so much data there that you will most likely find what you are searching and maybe even a relative or two.
Believe me I have been using it since it's inception and had only good things from it.
If you search for Glasgow and Edinburgh on the site there is a Harvey Kaplan who has all the archives for those areas and he may be able to help you.

Cheers.

Post by **Tracey** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:07 am

Hi Momat

Ok work address it is then !! More embarrassing is that most of my clientelle of 26 years standing is Jewish and i should know more than when the holidays are what a Bah/Batmitzfa is

So far they have been a big help but i am hoping to bump into one who has done a TV programme, written books and beholds one of the "oldest" names.

Shalom

Tracey

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:39 pm

Good Morning Tracey
What a fascinating read. There are a couple of Reverend’s amongst my lot. I’m not absolutely sure about this but I believe that a “Reverend” is a church appointment in which case there must be a church or synagogue from which to preach to his flock.
In this case there should be written accounts of his life and work in the same way that Scottish Ministers are honoured.
Perhaps a quiet word with one of the Rabbi’s in London, Manchester or Leeds might turn up a few leads for you.
MM
ps I wrote this before the later posts came pouring in, pardon me any repetition

Post by **Tracey** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:15 pm

tzohorayeem toveem (good afternoon !) Malcolm

Edinburgh......................... when the twenty Jewish families then resident in the city established a synagogue in a lane off Nicholson Street. The earliest minister was according to tradition Moses Joel, who died in 1862. He was however licensed to act as Shochet only in 1831

No mention of him on Edinburgh Jewish history page

The Edinburgh Jewish community in 1816 consisted of 20 families. In 1825, the community acquired a tenement in Richmond Court and converted and equipped it for use as a Synagogue with 67 seats. This served the needs of the Community for 43 years. By the turn of the century, the community numbered 500 and had acquired a chapel in Graham Street for conversion into a Synagogue.

Pure laziness i know but i hoped there would have been more about him on the web being the earliest Minister an' all

But still looking !

Shochet
the authorized slaughterer of animals according to the laws of kashrut (kosher -ness).
The shochet is not a butcher. His job is to kill the animal and examine the carcass, not to render it into food. Jewish law generally discourages cruelty to animals, and the kosher method of slaughter is extremely quick and humane when its guidelines are followed strictly. The carcass must be free of disease and major blemishes. The work of the shochet is authorized and supervised by rabbis.

Toda

Tracey

momat · Post by **momat** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:15 am

Tracey,
On this site http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl for 1841 is the family of Moses Joel his wife and 9 children including 2 sets of twins !

Cheers.

Post by **Tracey** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:14 pm

Hi Momat

Thats what got me started again on this lot ! When i saw those children with the same ages i thought "no cant be", maybe one was born January the other December of the same year

Still dont know yet.

TalkingScot.com

Moses Joel.....

Joel Family