Illigitimate Macleod in Muckairn.....

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LesleyB
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Post by LesleyB » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:45 pm

Hi Meg
While on this topic (well vaguely!), were I to look at the original OPR for Cleish might I find my gt grandmother's birth and her siblings' whose births do not appear on the IGI or SP? Or are those too lost in the mists of time?
Possibly, but could not guarantee that you would. The IGI is not a complete list, SP is more reliable, but all I can suggest is that it depends... on the dates, on the church they went to (might it have been between 1843 - 1855?) and a number of other factors, like what has survived & what has not....

http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/famrec/h ... r-cov.html
460. CLEISH
460/1 B 1700-1819 M 1702-1819 D 1745-1811
460/2 B 1820-54 M 1820-54 D 1828-54
...but that does not mean that the records are complete for those periods, there may be gaps...sometimes big ones! (which may explain your missing persons)
However, I'd always be in favour of a good rummage in the OPRs - its amazing what you can find - I have found things which were listed wrongly in the IGI and SP, and things which appear in neither online databases (deaths for instance..) Even if you don't find what you are looking for you will still have a much better idea of the area your folk lived in & the times in which they lived.

utrecht003 - please accept my apologies, this has drifted somewhat from your original enquiry :roll:

Best wishes
Lesley

AndrewP
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Post by AndrewP » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:03 pm

The Cleish OPRs are in two sets as follows.

460/1
Births: 1700-1819
Marriages: 1702-1819
Deaths: 1742-1811

460/2
Births: 1820-1854
Marriages: 1820-1854
Deaths: 1828-1854

On looking at these batches of births on the online IGI, Cleish is complete with both male and female births (there are many parishes where the online version of the IGI which list only the female births).

It is possible that newer (post-1849) Kirk Session records are still held by the parish church in Cleish. The NAS index would normally show if these were held in NAS or any other recognised archive repository in Scotland.

All the best,

AndrewP

garibaldired
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Post by garibaldired » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:08 pm

Thanks very much Lesley. One of those things to go on my list.
And yes it was between 1842 and 1854.

Also my apologies to you utrecht003 as well.......sorry.
I'm too easily side tracked.

Best wishes,
Meg
Main family lines are Harpers from Midlothian, Fife & Kinross-shire, and Dobies/Dobbies from Midlothian. Also Strathearn, Stobie, Layden and Downie.