Opinion please of some ancestor finds

[Bertha]

Hi Stewie

Due to my interest in anyone with the name Nelson/Neilson in the Midlothian/East Lothian area, I had a look for your Bessie/Elizabeth on the LDS
There are quite a few submission entries but I did find a definit christening for John Balk in Duddingston, 1st Jan 1727 parents George Balk & Elpeth Fleucker.
However this is where I get confused. I looked for Elizabeth and found submission entries for one christened/birth 3rd May 1827 with the parents names as George Neilson & Marion Flucker/Fleaker If you click on the Batch No. it comes up with all the entries for Duddington unfortunately, a lot of submissions but you might come across a few OPR entries.
Good Luck
Bertha

[Jack]

Hi Stewie,
Marion's mother may well have been as BRUCE, and not BRYCE.
A wee stroke sticking up from a word below could make a 'u' look like a 'y'.
And the way my eyes are at times it's a distinct possibility i was wrong!
Cheers - Jack

[StewL]

Hello Jack

Thanks again for your input. I got the image yesterday from SP, took a bit of jigglin around as I ended up just puttin in the shire to get her. I got nothing putting in all the information. Less is more it seems
I was thinking the same thing when I was reading the cert, it looked like Bruce with a wee stroke below making you think it might be Bryce. But at least I have got it at last. I was looking at my previous searches and was surprised I hadnt done that many searches for her, then realised it was all "dry run" searches that I had used and remembered that I was always getting no matches come up. As for her husband Robert Phillips it looks like he died between 1851 and 1855, why couldn't he hang on a bit longer

Bertha

Thanks for that bit of information, I will have a wee look at the LDS site, like you did then have a shooftie on the BVRI's to see what crops up. But I have found on occasion that even though you get an extracted entry on LDS, sometimes it comes up blank on the BVRI?

[StewL]

Bertha

I had a look on LDS yesterday, and it took a bit of a while to get through

You are right about the submissions, they were all submissions all 33 of them, and a lot of duplicates.

Funnily when I went looking for George Balks and Espith(sic) Fleucker/Flucker etc I found only extracted entries. and searching for George Neilson/Marion Fleucker etc I found a few extracts also. Checking on the BVRI's I got some also. It was a bit confusing searching for this lot, as LDS didn't pop up any spelling variations during the searches? Most unusual, that you didn't find them doing different spellings of names
Has the LDS site changed and no longer pops in all the spelling variations even if you haven't ticked the exact spelling box?
I would like to explain myself better, but it was a bit confusing and complex doing these searches yesterday and I must still be a bit head damaged

IF?? this lot are related it also raises another problem??
Later on in this line that I have been given George Baaks (sic)b 1750, son of George and Bessie Neilson marries a Helen Flucker/Fluker from North Lieth I hope they arent trying to keep it in the family And according the the LDS submissions this Bessie is the daughter of George Neislon and Marion Fluker(sic) it also mentions on all submissions that she married George Baaks which is the information I have.

Sorry if this is all a bit confusing, but with all the surname spelling variations even within a family, I have to admit it is confusing to me too AND what if there not related to my line at all, all the work is for nothing

[Russell]

Hi Stewie

It won't be all for nothing. Just think of all the spelling variants you have learned which defeat even the LDS system

You have excluded a lot of people from future searches which can't be a bad thing either.

If you really want to know why the phonetically based search engine fails to pick up some of the variants, ask Sarah. Thats where her expertise lies.
If you want to actually understand some of her explanation, best book a one hour consultation first. It is all a bit beyond me. I'm not being critical, just in awe of her understanding of it all

Russell

[SarahND]

If you want to actually understand some of her explanation, best book a one hour consultation first.

That's a whole semester's course, Russell Actually, the main problem is that it's nearly impossible to understand phonetic explanations without either 1) being able to hear the sounds in question or 2) at least being able to read them in phonetic transcription-- neither of which is possible on this board! Wouldn't it be fun to have sound files in the gallery along the lines of: "Here is an early wax-cylinder recording of my great grandfather calling the cows. Can anyone tell me which part of Scotland he comes from?"
Sarah

[Bertha]

Hi SteweL

Know what you mean about the confusion. I sometimes saw them and there again sometimes not I'm sure I put in the same info each time and had wondered if there was a wee glitch on the LDS.
Happy hunting
Bertha

[StewL]

Russell

Thanks for the reply on this convoluted lot of lang deid yins. As you said nothing is for nothing, this lot are the first I have seen with so many surname spelling variations within a family, and I am also talking siblings from one set of parents if my memory serves me right the spelling went back and forth.

As Sarah said it would be necessary to hear the individuals say something just to work out how they said their names. No spooky wifes on the forum eh?

Bertha
Yes that was the same problem I had, first they'e there then there gone?

I think I will just place them in a "Possibly related" folder and see if I can get more information/proof they are in my line And like all submissions some are right (extract also) and some wha kens?