Please can anybody help me with this Sheppard brick wall?

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Jack
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Sheppard Family

Post by Jack » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:24 am

Hi Sally,
Thanks for the update, and glad to see you're way ahead of me with the MCs...hope one was for an Ethel !
You're father's doing well; not all that many folk hit the 92 years plus mark !

What was Robert G. INNES's father's name & occupation on the 1916 MC?
Perhaps it is the INNES name that has the Greenock connection.
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There are these Births...and you'll know the Registration Districts better than me.
Were Grimsby BMDs recorded in Caistor?
Names & ages fit though, and looks like Frank & May were twins.
There are some possible Shepherd births around 1879.
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1869 - Annie May SHEPHERD; Caistor; Apr-May-Jun; 7a 590.
1871 - Mary Lizzie SHEPHERD; Caistor; Jul-Aug-Sep; 7a 564.
1874 - Eliza Ann SHEPHERD; Caistor; Jul-Aug-Sep; 7a 602.
1875 - Rose Martha SHEPHERD; Caistor; Oct-Nov-Dec; 7a 633.
1877 - Ethel SHEPHERD; Caistor; Apr-May-Jun; 7a 684.
1881 - George James SHEPHERD; Caistor; Oct-Nov-Dec; 7a 612.
1883 - Alice SHEPHERD; Caistor; Jan-Feb-Mar; 7a 665.
1885 - Richard SHEPHARD; Caistor; Jan-Feb-Mar; 7a 680.
1887 - Frank SHEPHERD; Caistor; Apr-May-Jun; 7a 668.
1887 - May SHEPHERD; Caistor; Apr-May-Jun; 7a 668.

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Jack

bitkin
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Post by bitkin » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:48 pm

Yes Jack - slip of the tongue there! Cert ordered for Ethel not Edith.. blame it on watching brick walls (real ones- newly built and therefore wide open to being pushed over) late at night.
I sent for the May birth at Caistor a few days ago - having checked on the map it is a mere few miles from Grimsby.

Yes, the Innes side definitely are from Scotland, and so far I am doing well with them. Robert Gladstone Innes, May's husband, was a Lloyds Surveyor on the marriage cert, and his family went to Grimsby via Liverpool from Scotland.

I will have to wait now for the certs to come back, but would like to say something.
I have been researching for three years and am a member of several sites. This one has to be the friendliest and most helpful that I have ever come across. There is no feeling of being an idiot (even though I often am!) and I am overwhelmed by your help, even though it has turned out that this particular line is not Scottish. Most forums would have said "go away, this is nothing to do with us" so I was very touched to have your continued help. Thank you.
Sally (who will come back, hopefully, to report closure on this)
Bitkin, researching Sheppard, Innes, Josephy, Wrightson, Cooper, Dickinson, and gently sinking into madness!!

Russell
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Post by Russell » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:32 pm

Hi Sally

you said
(who will come back, hopefully, to report closure on this)
You will have to now or Jack will not be satisfied that he was on the right track.
There are several others who have been watching from the sidelines and enjoying a history being pieced together. They would probably be disappointed too.
Just wait till you dig deeper into the Old Parochial Records here in Scotland. Some of them need to be posted up on the board here so others can have a go at deciphering them.

It's all good fun and oh! so satisfying when you make a breakthrough :D

Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
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bitkin
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Post by bitkin » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:39 pm

Thank's Russell. Don't worry, I will be back with what I find and will post it on here.
Again, you have highlighted the fact that this site really is different! I have a few credits left, so will use them up shortly, before the big blitz later on :)
Sally
Bitkin, researching Sheppard, Innes, Josephy, Wrightson, Cooper, Dickinson, and gently sinking into madness!!

bitkin
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Post by bitkin » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:39 pm

:D Hello again, and especially to Marilyn, Jack and Russell.

I have news!! After I last posted, I contacted my step sister again, who is currently over in Australia. She could think of no new information, other than a vague recollection of twins in her grandmother's time. FANTASTIC I thought, that could be her grandmother May and her brother Frank. Still not proof that Jack was right tho.
Anyway, to cut this very short - the marriage certs all arrived at once today, and YES.......... Alice, May's sister, was married from the same address 133 Park Street. So there is my proof. It just shows that one should never take as gospel what is handed down by word of mouth - and instead of originating in Scotland, Richard started life in the Bermondsey Workhouse in London, along with most of his siblings and his mother. It seems pretty certain that he took an apprenticeship on board a fishing vessel owned by Billingsgate, and then worked hard to gain his Master Mariner's certificate, either in London, or perhaps in Grimsby - finally working a minesweeper for the Navy as Skipper RNR. I can now pad out this research with confidence, and many many thanks to you.
You haven't seen the last of me however, because the Innes's are definitely from Scotland, and I will be concentrating on them sooner or later, also there is the matter of Donald Sheppard who was the son of one of May's brothers, and who moved to Scotland to practice gynaecology.
Sally, who is very grateful for the help
Bitkin, researching Sheppard, Innes, Josephy, Wrightson, Cooper, Dickinson, and gently sinking into madness!!

Jack
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Sheppard Family

Post by Jack » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:50 am

Hi Sally,
Good news indeed...you must've been delighted to see 133 Park Street on Alice's MC !
It was your namesake Sally who started the ball rolling by finding May in 1901. :D

You're right; never believe all that you hear; i used to...but not now!
Many family stories can get a wee bit confused over the passing of the years.

Richard certainly did well in life after a very shaky start - must've been a strong-willed man.
Thanks for letting us know of the happy ending...which is also now a beginning...
Cheers - Jack :D