it gets worse

[Justjan]

i have never seen this info Annette , this is all new , someone gave me a Charles and Eliz at an add i think in 1862 before Frances was born ,
but was only the 2 of them then ,
going by the dates of the Children to Agnes , hes been busy ? as got children younger than James ,
and then onto Agnes McPherson in 1873 , my some man , very confusing this is ,
odd for someone with so many siblings for none to be around to sign his death cert , or help re children wise ,
ever more odd how we never heard of our Granda having any Family , was always said he was an only one , and no relations , dont think he could have known ,
it was his Death Cert that says Renfrew , thats what i meant by he couldnt have given that information out , as he would be dead , so his Mother could well be Patrick

[Justjan]

Charles Stewart
Name: Charles Stewart
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Renfrewshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Paisley High
County: Renfrewshire
Address: No 12 Storie Street
Occupation: Pattern Setter
Parish Number: 573
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Stewart 35
Elizabeth Stewart 35
Mary Stewart 15
Hellen Stewart 14
William Stewart 12
David Stewart 10
Charles Stewart 8
Elizabeth Stewart 6
John Stewart 2
Robert Stewart

[Justjan]

Cameron
Name: Frances Cameron
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : John
Gender: Female
Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 644/7
Registration district: Milton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 38 Milton Lane
ED: 14
Household schedule number: 41
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1861_106
Household Members: Name Age
John Cameron 45
Frances Cameron 40
Elizabeth Cameron 11
Margret Cameron 9
Jane Cameron 7
John Cameron 4

but her being young when she died , does tie in with what we were told ,

[nelmit]

Jan, I was trying to point out that the Charles (most likely the son of Charles Stewart and Elizabeth Patrick) who was married to Agnes Begg is not your Charles.

Finding them both in 1861 proves that.

Regards,
Annette

[nelmit]

I think this is Fanny and Elizabeth in 1861 -

Name: Elizabeth Cameron
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/5
Registration district: Clyde
Civil Parish: Glasgow St Mary
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 78 Satt Market
Occupation: Washer & Dresser
ED: 11
Household schedule number: 113
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1861_104
Household Members:
Name Age
William Doughtie 57
William Doughtie 36
William Doughtie 6
Fanny Cameron 41
Elizabeth Cameron 24

Regards,
Annette

[Justjan]

thanks Annette
i was wondering where such a sick man got the energy , i think i seen that entry for Eliz before when searching,
just wondering the relation in USA? maybe was away by these census ,
so we knew Eliz had a Sibling just not who or what sex ,
and Frances as in Granny was a widow around 1862 when shes applied for poor relief ,
wondering if Charles isnt this Eliz Patrick , who is his Mother , when i searched SP and i did put in 1832/34 the Ellen Dorn was the only only come out ,
i also tried a Census for 1841 , just the view and just typed in Charles aged around 8 i only got the same woman ,
i couldnt get any with an Elizabeth , if his age is right on Death Cert as 40 ,would make his DOB1832/33/34 ,
do i have enough info to try SP again ? if so what will i try looking for as 30 credits dont go far

[Justjan]

tried the births in SP for a Charles born 1830- 1835 to a Chas and Elizabeth , just put Renfrew , but no area , nothing
took away the mothers name , got 1 match - Stewart- Dorn ,
tried a marriage for both of them from 1820 -1835 , no marriage ,

no signs of a Eliz Stewart ms Renfrew dying ,

tried the birth of Charles Sen , i have 4 possibles with Father as William ,
didnt add a Mothers name ,
i expect looking for Charles born 1806 , wont help with the other Charles
so bang goes that idea ,