John Darroch Dallas Fulton

[joette]

I think the saying "A girl in every Port" may apply here.Perhaps he was unaware that his wife had died-can you find when he stopped making the transatlantic trips? He may have thought he was bigamously married and unwilling to return & face the music. It may have been guilt about a new wife before the old one was cold or the abandonment of his child.
If you could track down the child & hear their side of the story it could be very illuminating.
One of my friends Father sailed on cruise ships & had a very happy second wife & home in Australia.He was forced back to the UK after WW2 but still visited back & forth before getting a permanent berth in the UK.I think both families were aware of the other although she does not know if she has any Aussie siblings but thinks she does-her Father did confess that he was living as a married couple with this Australian lady but not to children.

[speleobat2]

Here we all are thinking that we're just working on our family trees and never knowing when we're going end up with a Pandora's Box landing in our lap!

I honestly don't know what I would do, but with nearly a quarter of my relatives dying of typhoid fever and TB, I would be tempted to follow up on the daughter in Scotland just as an opportunity to connect with more relatives.

Carol

[buny73]

Hi all, I agree that this marriage and family have a lot to do with why he thought he couldn't go back to scotland. I have ordered the birth records for both the Annie Mowat McManus and the John Darroch that SP had listed. I also ordered the death certificate for Helen McManus.

I don't know when my grandfather finally settled down in the US, but at the time he married my grandmother in 1930 he was a welder (I believe for the East Ohio Gas Company, because that is also where my grandmother's father worked. I am assuming that is where my grandma and grandpa met). Also since we have no idea when he settled in the us we have no way of knowing if he abandoned his wife and children in Scotland. For all I know they could have gotten divorced and she kept his last name. Unfortunately, until I find some living relatives in Scotland we may never know the whole story.

I did see the John Fulton's in the passenger lists that was a memeber of the crew--but I didn't think it was him. Now I am thinking that maybe it was. I will keep looking and let you know what I find.

Nicole

[buny73]

Hi Sarah and Carol,

I made some changes to my profile so maybe I will get the notices now. That is the family I am looking for in the 1901 census. I need a census with John Darroch Dallas Fulton that includes his parents so I can find out how many siblings he had. His parents are George Fulton and Marion Darroch. I am assuming they are both born around 1840. John was born around 1870. I believe that Marion was born in Jura, Scotland, Not sure where George was born, I just know it was Scotland.

Nicole

[SarahND]

Good morning Nicole,
Looks like George was off on a boat in 1871. There are a number of transcription mistakes in the Ancestry version (note that Marion is the only one with the surname spelled Fulton), but there is enough here to help you find the original record on ScotlandsPeople. It looks more and more likely that John was indeed a sailor, since his father was one.

1871
40 Orchard St, Partick, Lanarkshire
Marion Fulton, 31, Head, born Cleadon, Argyllshire, Sailor's Wife
George Futton, 4, Son, born Glasgow, Renfrewshire
Duncan Futton, 2, Son, born Partick, Lanarkshire
John Futton, 6mo, Son, born Partick, Lanarkshire
Charles Comarow, 40, Boarder, born Elgin, Elginshire, Joiner
Fannie Comarow, 29, Wife, born Ireland

All the best,
Sarah

[buny73]

Thanks Sarah, I never thought of the possibilty that John Darroch Dallas was a sailor. Might be why I can't find hi on any census with his wife. I did locate a son of Frank Fulton(brother of John Mowat and son of John Darrich Dallas). Maybe he can answer some questions for me. I am still waiting on the certificates I ordered form SP. Hopefully it won't take too long to get here. I will let you know what they say. I only oredered the death certificate for helen and the birth for Annie and John D. Eventually I will order the marriage certificate for Helen and John Mowat Fulton.


Nicole

[SarahND]

Hi Nicole,
Yes, I think all those passenger list entries for a crew member named John Fulton may be your man.

Looks like George and Marion may have both died by 1881.
In 1881 young George is a Ship Smith Apprentice, living at 1 Hill street, Partick with his aunt, "Mrs McConnell" and her children. Her birthplace is shown as "Kintye" Argyleshire, which maybe will help narrowing down the area, although for the moment I can't come up with any convincing versions of Kintye or Cleadon in the right place

John appears to be farmed out with yet another aunt, Mary Currie, living in Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire. This aunt was born in "Clarhan," Argylshire. You'll have to do a bit of research to find out if these aunts are sisters of George or sisters of Marion.

All the best,
Sarah

[SarahND]

Looks like George and Marion may have both died by 1881.

I take that back... Marion Fulton, other surname Darroch, born 1840, died in 1912. So she must be off somewhere in 1881.

This could be Marion in 1881, but if so, where was daughter Mary in 1871?

1881
14 George St, Paisley High Church, Renfrewshire
Marion Fulton, 40, Head, born Argyleshire, Kilcalmon, Mill Worker
Mary Fulton, 15, Daughter, born Lanarkshire, Partick, Mill Worker

Regards,
Sarah

[buny73]

Hi Sarah, thanks for the info. This family is soooo confusing. I was thinking that maybe both Marion and George worked on a ship or maybe airline stewards. Maybe that is why we can't find them on a census together. And why little John was staying with Aunts. I know that the economy in Scotland wasn't very good back then. That would have been a good way for them to make some money. I did find the son of Frank Fulton (Frank is the son of John D.D.Fulton and Annie McMenemy) maybe he will have some answers or know of some living relatives who knows.

At least I have a few new names to search for. I think that after I do a little research on Mary Currie and Mrs McConnell I will take a break from my family and work on my hubby's family.

Nicole

[SarahND]

where was daughter Mary in 1871?

Okay, answering my own question here… Mary seems to be with her paternal =D> grandparents, who are oddly transcribed as "Pullen"

1871
26 Gibson St, Partick, Lanarkshire
George Pullen, 55, Head, born Beith, Ayrshire, Smith Bell Lance (master Employing 2 Men)
Mary Pullen, 57, Wife, born Glasgow, Lanark
Margaret Reaside, 16, Servant, born Beith, Ayrshire, Message Girl
Kate Reeside, 14, Servant, born Paisley, Renfrewshire, Message Girl
Mary Fulton, 5, Grandaughter, born Partick, Lanarkshire, Scholar

So now you have a basis for going backwards with George's family. Don't give up on them yet!


Sarah

P.S. If you haven't done so already, it would help to download the marriage of George Fulton and Marion Darroch in 1865, to find out their parents' names and occupations to help locate them in earlier censuses.