Request for knowlege

[Izzie]

Hi Lesley,
Well I went through it again, and when I go look at updates the 3 pictures are there, however never once did a continue button appear, nor did I get the message the file was placed successfully. Go figure. Think I'll give up for the time being.
Izzie

[LesleyB]

Hi Izzie
Well that is really odd - and I'm at a loss to explain it... I wish I could see what you were seeing!

Best wishes
Lesley

[LesleyB]

Izzie
I just noticed you have Dicks AND McNicols in your list of names.... I have Dicks from Fife, later to be found in Edinburgh & McNicols from Dunbartonshire (possibly Perthshire before that) who then moved into Glasgow.

Best wishes
Lesley

[Izzie]

Hi Leslie,
Our Dicks starting with John, b abt 1719 & Elizabeth Jaffrey were married in Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland, May 20 1743, their son John, b Abt. 1747, Govan, Lanarkshire & wife Jane married in Bathgate November 09, 1766
(Ron R. Thompson shared information gleaned from a family tombstone in Scotland, as Follows:
1833, Erected by:
John Dick, Merchant, Whitburn
In memory of his father John Dick, who died 11th March, 1833, aged 86,of his Mother Janet Dick, who died 11th December 1828, Age 86, of their son James who died in Canada June 1821, aged 44 years, their Son, William, who died in Jamaica 1803, age 24 and their daughter Agnes who died May 9th, 1826, age 58.(From the Bowes Direct Lineage))

"James emigrated to Canada aboard the David of London. They left Greenoch, Scotland May 19,1821 arriving in Quebec June 25, 1821 along with 364 passengers under the command of Capitan Gemmell. James aged 43, his wife aged 44, sons 2, 6 and 8, daughters 4, 10, 10, 13, 18 and 20 years of age.
Upon arrival, James lost his life by drowning in the St Lawrence at Lachine, Quebec, this was notated by Rev. Wm. Bell in his diary. "( A Family Record of Pioneer Scottish Families in Lanark County, Edna Gardner Lowry)

His wife Janet Brown died a month later, the oldest son John was allowed the grant even though he was underage. The neighbours helped build their home. Which was a good thing, otherwise I wouldn't be here, as his older sister Jannet b Dec 3 1801 married Thomas Bowes, b July 15, 1796 Compsie, Stirling, May 05, 1823, Canada and had my gg Grandmother Elizabeth Bowes that married Walter Gardner, b May 16, 1825.

Thomas Bowes was s/o James William Bowes, b 1760, a merchant in Manchester, & wife Margaret Monteith (Monteath)b 1768, Glasgow, d/o Lord Thomas & Catherine (Care)Kerr.

The McNicols start with John b abt 1768, Inverary, Argyleshire, married Flora Munroe on Nov 15, 1800 at Bonhill, Dunbarton, "Family book: Flora was a dairy maid in the employ of the Duke of Argyle and resided in the Argyle castle in Inverary. She was a first cousin to James Munroe who in 1817 was elected the 5th President of the USA.
John was a shepherd that looked after sheep near Loch Aive. He, his wife and family came to Canada in 1820 on the Ship "The Prompt" from Greenock, Scotland "
They had 8 children, one being Donald, b 1808, Inverary, Argyleshire. He married Isabella Urquhart, d/o Robert Urquhart, b 1767, Cromarty & Catherine Ross, b 1789, Edinburgh, who had 12 children.
Donald & Isabella's daughter Catherine b 1844, Canada, married James McInnes,b 1837, Canada, s/o Edward & Janet Baird of Glasgow.
Their daughter Isabella b Nov 06, 1865, Canada, married my grandfather William Gardner b 1867, s/o Walter b 1825.
So there it is in a nutshell, my maternal direct line. Unfortunately we are having a hard time getting back any further in the lines other than the Bowes that go back to the 1300's.
All the best
Izzie

[LesleyB]

Hi Izzie
Thanks for explaining your Dicks & McNicols. I can't see any direct connections with my lot, which is a pity.

Your McNicols seem to have been in the same area at a slightly earlier time than my McNicols which is interesting, but I think its just one of those coincidences: Archibald McNicol (suspect b. 1792 Aberfoyle, but no concrete proof yet, but if so, father would be a Donald McNicol) m.1823 Roseneath, was in Bonhill having children between 1825-1836, but I can't see a connection there with your McNicols other than both were in Bonhill at one point! There are quite a number of McNicols in Argyll - I know this because many of them have the same first names as my McNicols and I keep coming across them.

I rather suspect if I could trace the Aberfoyle family (Donald McNicol possibly b.abt 1760, m. 1786 Aberfoyle) back a generation or two I might just end up in Argyll, as they seem to be the only McNicols in the Aberfoyle area, so I doubt that is their original home stomping ground.

Best wishes
Lesley

[Davie]

Hi Girls,
I have McNicols in my lot as well.
They originally came from Killin, and like the McNaughtons, move south.
First to Aberfoyle, then Rhu, Dumbarton and Glasgow.
After that, it was to the Colonies.
Archibald McNicol married Elizabeth McNaughton.
Do you have the passenger list for the David of London, Izzy.
Have really enjoyed reading The Lanark site on the Net.
What an interesting article on the Orange Parade in the 1890s.
Davie

[Izzie]

Hi Davie, I used to have a web site that shawed the ships lists with passenger's names however that has changed hands & doesn't show the David of London any more for some reason, however it does list who came in what year. It does have lists of other ship passengers that settled the area.
Try http://granniesgenealogygarden.com/Granny1/index.html and look under settlers Lanark County 1820 - 1822 and all are included there & where they settled.

Also http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/index.htm provides lots of information but no names, look under Ship Arrivals at the Port of Quebec, 1821, June 22 - Aug 17 its listed as, June 25, ship David , Captian Gemmill , 33 days from Greenock with 364 settlers. It has an interesting tale off site of the voyage. It too I believe showed all passengers at one time.

I do know the actual list of Passengers is at the National Archives, where my aunt got her information from originally.

Somewhere on that site is this paper clipping referring to the death of James Dick whom I mentioned in my previous post
Newspaper clippings, (Herald), - CASUALTY - On the 29th ult, a respectable Scotch emigrant, named James Dick, bathing near Lachine, and ignorant of the sudden declivity of the bottom, got beyond his depth, was hurried away by the current and was drowned. He has left a wife and no less than eleven children in indigent circumstances. "It was a woeful sight (says our informant, speaking of the latter) to see them running to and fro on that part of the beach where his clothes lay; whilst the mother, poor woman ! remained ignorant of it, through the prudent measures of the settlers, until alas ! it was too certain that he had gone to that bourne from which no traveller returns. On its being communicated to her, she became bewildered and could not believe it, till grief choaked [sic] her and she fainted. On recovery, surrounded by her numerous offspring, it was a sight to melt the most obdurate heart; but the evil was irremediable, and the next day, she piously told me, in a tone scarcely audible, that she resigned herself to the will of her all merciful Creator. "Upon our worthy Governor (continues he) being informed of the circumstances, he, with his characteristic benevolence, directed that the grant of land and other support which was to have been given to the father, should be continued to the eldest son and mother for the future maintenance of the family, for which they were very grateful, and proceeded with the other settlers to their place of destination, the new settlement of Lanark."
[the Dick family had arrived at Quebec on the David (of London) on 25th June 1821]

Yes the Lanark site is great, I have subbmitted quite a few pictures for the Cemetery pages and met more far flung descendants because of it. My rellies can be found under the Auld Kirk which most of the covenantors joined in later years and in the Union Cemetery, Pakenham. and one of the oldest is the Old Wesleyan Cemetery.

Enjoy
Izzie

[Izzie]

Hi again,
Missed listing another really good site, http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/thevoyage.html
Lots of info
Izzie