Murray/Rennie Greenock East

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:59 pm

There is no head at Ancestry but I would think it's Margaret Crawford, sailor's wife. Here are their children -

Results for: All Countries
Father: James Crawford, Mother: Margaret Ogilvie

1. JAMES CRAWFORD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 SEP 1857 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
2. DAVID RENNIE CRAWFORD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 07 DEC 1859 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
3. ARCHIBALD MCNAIR CRAWFORD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 27 JAN 1864 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
4. WILLIAM CRAWFORD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 17 MAY 1862 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
5. JAMES CRAWFORD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 01 AUG 1857 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

Apart from Margaret's children the rest are all visitors except Archibald McNair who's a boarder.
Isabella Rennie was born at Dunoon.

I also note David Rennie called one of his children James Crawford Rennie which is why I'm fairly sure this is his family.

But the question is - do I have the same David Rennie who was living with James and Janet Murray in 1841 and we also don't know waht the relationship was between them.

Regards,
Annette

caljam371 · Post by **caljam371** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:30 pm

No Year Surname / Maiden Name Forename Mother's Surname Other Surnames Sex Age District City/County/MR
1 1861 RENNIE ANN MORTON MCLEISH F 74 BLYTHSWOOD GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
2 1862 RENNIE ANN MOIR BRUCE F 74 LONGSIDE /ABERDEEN
3 1863 RENNIE ANN IMLAH REID F 79 FYVIE /ABERDEEN
4 1863 RENNIE ANN HOWIESON F 72 TURRIFF /ABERDEEN
5 1867 RENNIE ANN F 78 FORFAR /ANGUS
6 1867 RENNIE ANN DURRIS F 81 KINNELL /ANGUS
7 1868 RENNIE ANN MACHRAY F 85 UDNY /ABERDEEN
8 1875 RENNIE ANN MCCLYMONT F 84 KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
9 1879 RENNIE ANN STEPHENSON F 92 FOVERAN /ABERDEEN
10 1873 RENNIE ANNE ROBB F 81 DORNOCH /SUTHERLAND

I don't know if that helped

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:17 pm

I've been going round in circles trying to find a relationship between Mary Harvie Clark(e) and Mary Murray but I'm stumped as to how she could have been her biological grandmother.

I thought the key may lie with Jane Murray b 1844 as she was born at Dalserf and her siblings were Greenock.

Jane married James Hunter in 1868 giving her parents names as James Murray and Janet Rennie and here they are in 1881 -

Dwelling: 46 Flemington Rows
Census Place: Cambuslang, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203619 GRO Ref Volume 627 EnumDist 7 Page 27
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
James HUNTER M 41 M Airdrie, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Steel Manuf (Tester)
Jane HUNTER M 36 F Dalserf, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Alex. HUNTER 12 M Dalserf, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Mary H. HUNTER 9 F Overtown, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Joan HUNTER 7 F Overtown, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Janet HUNTER 4 F Cambuslang, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Jane A.C. HUNTER 3 F Cambuslang, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Isabella D. HUNTER 1 F Cambuslang, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
James HUNTER 1 m M Cambuslang, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
James MURRAY U 37 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Brother In Law
Occ: Commercial Clerk (Unemp)

Isabella's middle name is Davida (could this be after David Rennie and Isabella McNeilage?)

Jane's middle name is Robina and I believe the C may be for Clark or Currie after Jane Clarke who married Robert Currie.

All pure conjecture on my part.

I haven't found a death for Jane Murray/Hunter that looks plausible and I cannot find the family after 1881.

All this gets you no nearer to solving the mystery but I thought I'd post my thoughts in case anybody else can make sense of it.

Happy New Year,

Annette

caljam371 · Post by **caljam371** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:26 pm

Thanks for the info on Jane!!

Looking back at the marriage of Janet Rennie and James Murray - the marriage is recorded at Greenock East and Dalserf.

James Murray, Ships Carpenter, in this Parish & Janet Rennie in the Parish of Dalserf, Proclaimed 29th February 1835

22 February James Murray of the East Parish of Greenock and Janet Rennie of this Parish.

Would the Parishes mentioned be their Parish of residence or birth?

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:02 pm

Hi Caljam

Would the Parishes mentioned be their Parish of residence or birth?

Usually it is the parish of residence at the time (which for many folk would also be the parish of birth)

Best wishes
Lesley

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:11 pm

Hi Caljam,

I've PM'd you re Jane Murray's marriage entry.

Regards,
Annette