Pettigrew Wall in Scotland

karenpettigrew67 · Post by **karenpettigrew67** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:11 am

Hi,
I am looking for any information on Alexander Pettigrew b about 1801 in Scotland. Family history says he emigrated to Canada from Scotland on the ship "The Waxford" in 1841 with his wife Mary Winham (Wenham)b 1801? England, and children:
Daniel(adopted) b 25 Dec 1826 Glasgow; d 14 March 1853 NYS USA
James b 1830? Scotland; d 6 Dec 1906 Boston MA USA
William Alexander b 5 Nov 1835 Edinburgh; d 24 Sept 1927 New York USA
Mary b 14 March 1841 Edinburgh; d 4 march 1925 NYS USA

I joined Ancestry worldwide to search UK records and Scotlandspeople and found the family in the 1841 Scotland census( Petticrew not Pettigrew). This is the information on Mary or Margaret the mother:

Name: Margt Petticrew
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: England
Civil Parish: Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Puddockrow
Parish Number: 644/2

In the 1851 census for Canada Margt (Mary) is listed under Pettygrew with some of the children but not the father Alexander. And her maiden name is listed there as Wenham. I have since found out that the ship might be the "Margaret of Wexford"???

Can anyone help? Or point me in the right direction? Thanks so much

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:49 am

Hello Karen,

Not much help, but Aexander is with the family in 1841.

Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Gorbals -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 43
Civil Parish: Gorbals Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Gorbals
Folio: 42 Page: 18
Address: Puddock Row

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
PETTECREW Alexr M 40 Labourer Lanarkshire
PETTECREW Margt F 40 England
PETTECREW Daniel M 15 Apprentice Joiner Lanarkshire
PETTECREW Jas M 9 Lanarkshire
PETTECREW Wm M 6 Lanarkshire
PETTECREW Mary F 2m Lanarkshire

Regards,
Annette M

NadineS · Post by **NadineS** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:24 pm

Hi Karen,

You've probably already seen this, but, I'm looking at an 1851 Quebec census which I hope is the same family!! There is Mary with the children (and also an Alexander 6 yrs old b. Quebec).
On the rest of the page is a squiggly line joining the other spouses, but there is an "M" or "W" beside Mary's. Do you think she could be widowed by this time? So Alexander could have died in Canada?

Hope this helps a little!

Nadine

karenpettigrew67 · Post by **karenpettigrew67** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:38 pm

Thank you for the quick responses! Yes, I knew Alexander was listed in the 1841 Scotland census. He was with the family as they traveled to Canada.
But he is not on the 1851 Canada census so I am trying to find death record for him there. A son Alexander was born in Canada and was baptized there in 1849 along with the daughter Mary Harriet who was born in 1841 in Scotland. At the baptism the father Alexander was not listed as a witness so I am thinking he was dead at that time.
I did not know about the suiggley mark on the census but that makes sense since I think he is dead by that time.
I wonder how I can find any earlier information on Alexander b 1801. Nothing I have searched seems to match.
Thanks again.

NadineS · Post by **NadineS** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:57 pm

I'm not sure where you will find Alexander's death record in Canada. I think civil registration didn't start here untill 1869. But, hopefully someone with a lot more knowledge can help you and point you in the right direction!

Enjoy the beautiful sunshine today

Nadine

karenpettigrew67 · Post by **karenpettigrew67** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:10 pm

thanks Nadine! I have had such wonderful help so far that I am sure the wall will crumble soon!!!!!!!!!

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:35 pm

Hello again.

Found this interesting marriage.

Was Alexander's wife named Mary or Margaret?

ALEXANDER PETTIGREW
Male

Marriages:
Spouse: MARY WHIAM
Marriage: 20 FEB 1842 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland

Remember too that ages in the 1841 census are rounded down to the nearest 5 so Alexander could have been born anytime between 1801 and 1804.

Regards,
Annette M

Later..........I wonder if Mary was his second wife and the older children are from a previous marriage?

karenpettigrew67 · Post by **karenpettigrew67** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:02 pm

Annette, thanks so much for this info. Yes the wife of Alexander iwas Mary or Margaret Wenham so this could be a possibilty!!!
My problem is that family history says they left Scotland in 1841? And now a marriage there in 1842??? Very interesting. Will have to do some more searching!!!! Thanks again.

karenpettigrew67 · Post by **karenpettigrew67** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:04 pm

Annette, does it say where Mary Whiam was born????? What was the place you found the marriage records?

Would they have lived together??

I have them in the census for 1841 as married already.

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:23 pm

karenpettigrew67 wrote:Annette, thanks so much for this info. Yes the wife of Alexander iwas Mary or Margaret Wenham so this could be a possibilty!!!
My problem is that family history says they left Scotland in 1841? And now a marriage there in 1842??? Very interesting. Will have to do some more searching!!!! Thanks again.

I got the marriage from the IGI.

Can't be your Alexander if he left in 1841. Perhaps a relative?

I just thought the female name was too close to ignore but could be a total coincidence. You could view the actual image on Scotlands People but quite honestly I don't think it would be worth it as I don't think it will tell you anything more.

regards,
Annette M