Lost Stewart (Forsyth) in Midlothian

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csa
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Lost Stewart (Forsyth) in Midlothian

Post by csa » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:51 pm

Hi

Having been fairly successful in tracking down Stewarts who moved to Leith in the mid 19 century, I wondered if anyone could help me get further.

According to the 1851/61 Census the Stewart family lived in Leith:
Alexander Stewart born in Renfrewshire abt 1805/6
Elizabeth Stewart (wife) born Inverness abt 1812/14
Daniel (David) Stewart (son)born Elginshire/Frantown abt 1832
George Stewart (son) born Peterhead abt 1834

Alexander Stewart died (according to his death certificate 3 July 1863)- his wife's maiden name was recorded as Forsyth.

According to the 1871/81/91 Census the family comprised:
Elizabeth Stewart (Head) born Dingwall, Rosshire /Inverness/Grantown abt 1816/14
Daniel (David) Stewart (son) born abt 1833/32 Grangetown(?Grantown)/Grantown
Elizabeth Stewart (granddaughter) born abt 1868 in Leith

The child Elizabeth's mother died shortly after childbirth. I have her death certificate.
Daniel's death certificate showed he died in 1900 at Rosslynlee Asylum outside Edinburgh

I can find no trace of Alexander and Elizabeth's marriage, Daniel and George's births or Elizabeth's (mother/grandmother's) death.

So far I have been using Ancestry/Scotland's People/Grantown Museum records .

I would be very grateful for any suggestions as to where I go from here?

Many thanks

Carolyn
Stewart-Renfrewshire, Highlands, Leith
Johnstone - Strathmiglo, Leith
Harman - Reading, London
Christianson - Edinburgh
Jamieson - Shetland, New Zealand

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Post by PaulaD » Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:21 pm

Hi Carolyn,

On the IGI there is a christening for George Stuart on 30 Mar 1834 in Peterhead. Father Alexander Stuart no mother mentioned.
Also there is a marriage of Alexander Stuart to Elizabeth Lawson on 01 Oct 1828 in Old Machar, Aberdeen.
Can't see anything for David/Daniel.
These Stewart/Stuarts are a nightmare aren't they, particularly in Edinburgh!

Paula
Searching for Barclay Aberdeenshire, Stewart Edinburgh, Brown Edinburgh & Uphall, Finlayson E Lothian, Fairley & Renton E & W Lothian for starters!

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Post by csa » Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:34 pm

Hi Paula

Many thanks.What is IGI please?

The christening is certainly a possibility, Stewart could have been misspelt. However I am confident Elizabeth's maiden name (if she ever marrired) is Forsyth as it is recorded on Alexander's death certificate.

Thankyou again for your help.

Carolyn
Stewart-Renfrewshire, Highlands, Leith
Johnstone - Strathmiglo, Leith
Harman - Reading, London
Christianson - Edinburgh
Jamieson - Shetland, New Zealand

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Post by killearnan » Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:29 pm

csa wrote: Many thanks.What is IGI please?
The IGI is the International Genealogical Index, found at the familysearch.org website and at family history centers at Mormon churches. Some of the entries are extracted from records while others are submitted by regular people like us :lol: so the accuracy can vary by a good bit. Useful for clues to further records.
However I am confident Elizabeth's maiden name (if she ever marrired) is Forsyth as it is recorded on Alexander's death certificate.
While the Forsyth might well be right, I wouldn't bet even a penny on a name I have from just one record. I've seen too many errors to be certain. My great grandfather gave the wrong maiden name for his mother when he married, and I have the lovely case where I kept looking for a woman whose name on her marriage record was Little - only to find from other records that her maiden name was actually Small. And those are from marriage records; death records are often less accurate as the person concerned is rarely the one providing the information :lol:

BJ
McGee (Donegal to Edinburgh), Jamieson/Guthrie (Leith), Keddie (Peebles, Galashiels), Little (Cavers, Traquair), Arthur (Galashiels) , Paterson (Edinburgh, with occ. spells in Stirling, Greenock, Leith), Ralston (Glasgow to Stirling), Greig (Elgin)

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Post by csa » Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:43 pm

Hi BJ

Many thanks for that.

I have Jamiesons in Leith. My grandfather was Thomas Thomson Jamieson born 1888 in Leith. His father was William Watson Jamieson Northmavine Shetland, born 1854.

Best wishes

Carolyn
Stewart-Renfrewshire, Highlands, Leith
Johnstone - Strathmiglo, Leith
Harman - Reading, London
Christianson - Edinburgh
Jamieson - Shetland, New Zealand

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Post by SarahND » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:23 pm

Hi Carolyn,
Also on the IGI there is an extracted christening of Elisabeth Forsyth
10 Oct 1810 Inverness, Inverness
Father: George Forsyth
Mother: Christian McRae

The father's name fits with the name of her second son.

Regards,
Sarah

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Post by csa » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:05 pm

Hi Sarah
Many thanks. I will follow it up.
Best wishes
Carolyn
Stewart-Renfrewshire, Highlands, Leith
Johnstone - Strathmiglo, Leith
Harman - Reading, London
Christianson - Edinburgh
Jamieson - Shetland, New Zealand

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Post by SarahND » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:56 pm

Hi again,
Have you looked at any of the Elizabeth Stewarts on Scotland's People who died between 1891 and 1901?
And what about David/Daniel and George's marriage and/or death certs? Those should give their mother's maiden name also and would strengthen your case for Forsyth, if that's what they report.

All the best,
Sarah (I wish my Stewarts were as easy to find!-- just be glad yours didn't emigrate to America in 1762 :!: )

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Post by csa » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:47 am

Hi Sarah

Thanks. Yes I have tried all the searches you suggested. The problem of course is (as you know!) Stewart is such a common name so it is difficult to narrow them down.

Unfortunately Daniel's death certificate does not name his parents. (He died in an asylum of "senile mania"). His next of kin on his health records name his daughter, whom he brought up with his mother, as his next of kin.

I will have another go at searching for Elizabeth senior's death certificate.

Thanks again Sarah and good luck with your American Stewart's. Maybe George decided to join them!

Carolyn
Stewart-Renfrewshire, Highlands, Leith
Johnstone - Strathmiglo, Leith
Harman - Reading, London
Christianson - Edinburgh
Jamieson - Shetland, New Zealand

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donald/daniel

Post by grannysrock » Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:08 pm

Hi Carolyn

From the IGI , there is this possible birth for Daniel ( Donald and Daniel were usually interchangeable in those days ) . Just to complicate matters , I have found that Daniel often gets mistranscribed as David !


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DONALD STUART Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth: 16 FEB 1832

Christening: 20 FEB 1832 Cromdale And Inverallan And Advie, Inverness, Scotland


Parents:
Father: ALEXANDER STUART Family
Mother: ELIZABETH FORSYTH

this is an extracted record.

I am wondering if Grantown-on-Spey is within the parish Cromdale And Inverallan And Advie ? Jean will know by heart I think !


One more bit of evidence for "Forsyth" ?


Sally
Newhaven-DRYBURGH,NICOLL,HUNTER(+Alloa) ; Lesmahagow-MITCHELL,LAMB, BARR, BROWN,CALLAN; Comrie-MCDOUGALL, MCEWEN, MCLAREN, BRYSON; BEW - PRINGLE, FISHER,SPENCE;Edzell-MIDDLETON,DORWARD;
Edin.-JOHNSTON, MONTGOMERY;Fife-SIME, FORRESTER, WANLESS