ROSS OF TUTUMTARVACH

[D Ross]

Greetings from the city of Winnipeg, province of Manitoba, in Canada. Have been researching ROSS ancestors for about 16 years and 10 generations. Most recent family living in province of Saskatchewan (grandparent) 1906, previous generations in Ontario (1800) and Nova Scotia (1830). Family originated from Scotland, lived Tutumtarvach, Suthlandshire, about 1780s. Father John, no wife info. Children: sons: John (of course) who is my direct ancestor, remained in Scotland (Children came to Canada early 1800s); Malcolm b. 1790s became member of Kings 8th regiment of foot about 1811, retired as Captain in Canada; David, came to Canada about 1830; daughter Grace b. about 1798, married soldier, Capt John Adam, and came to Canada about 1830. I am hopeful of finding out more about the family and life in Scotland. So far not much luck. Thank you for this opportunity.

[paddyscar]

Hello D Ross and a warm welcome to Talkingscot

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[scopeo]

You are not the only one researching your familyin Sutherland, Creich parish.

I entered Tutumtarvach into Google and someone has placed an entry in the local newspaper, The Northern Times.

Good luck

John
Australia

[AndrewP]

Hi D Ross,

When I saw the name Tutumtarvach, I thought someone had been on the cooking sherry. But no, I was wrong, it still shows on the modern maps, but using its Gaelic spelling Tuiteam Tarbhach.

--> OS map showing Tuiteam Tarbhach <--

On the equivalent 1870s map, the forest is not there. My best guess is that this would have been mostly sheep farming country then and earlier. On that map it is shown as Tutim, and is found below-left of the map centre.

--> 1870s OS map showing Tutim <--

Wikipedia tells us that there was a battle fought there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tuiteam_Tarbhach

All the best,

AndrewP

[Currie]

Hello D. Ross,

You’ll find some references to the place in Google Books (under both spellings) mainly of the tourist guide variety and with a bit more about the battle.

Guide to the highlands and islands of Scotland, 1851 - page 511
http://www.google.com.au/books?id=U6gHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA511

The New Statistical Account of Scotland, 1845 - pages 405/406
http://www.google.com.au/books?id=Y3sLA ... =RA1-PA405

A Google for Tuiteam Tarbhach bring up a 2002 enquiry from someone you possibly know of concerning inscriptions and has links to dead websites and also refers to Tuiteam Tarbhach as Tutim. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/SC ... 1011604551

Appear to be a couple of books at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow which cover Tutim Cemetery and are referred to in this document. http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/ ... _Oct07.pdf

Hope this helps.
Alan

[D Ross]

Really appreciate the help and advise. Already found out much more about the area. Getting closer to the people all the time. It will great to add to the Scotland family generations. If anyone needs any research for the areas of: Winnipeg, Manitoba; Simcoe County, Ontario, anywhere in Saskatchewan I am interested in helping any way I can. Have quite a bit of info on a Ross family originating from the Morayshire area, family member emigrated to Canada. Thanks again.

[janneymc]

HI , I am interested in your information on a Ross family from Morayshire. my ancestors were Donald and Elizabeth Ross and they lived in Forres Morayshire. Various mambers of the family emigrated, ONe ot Australia[Angus] Donald and William to New Zeland and Henry to USA. Other stayed in SCotland we think[ Alice George john betsey and Grace] Is this the same family?

[Liz Turner]

Hi there Jan

Have been off the site for a few weeks, due to pressure of work - but I got your email. We are, as we've found, related! I only began searching for my Ross relatives a couple of years ago as we had lost touch with all the recent family members, at the end of WW2 and I've been concentrating on my mum's maternal family and my dad's family. I knew the Ross family would be more of a challenge because we knew nothing about them.

Following our email exchange, I've started looking again at the information I have, some of which I got from Steve Ross in Australia, who found me through one of my very rare posts on Roostweb. I descend from George Ross b1845, the youngest son of Donald Ross and Betsy (Elizabeth) Falconer. Donald's parents were Grace MS Ross and Angus Ross. Her parents were John Falconer and (Lord help us) Elizabeth MS Ross. This is where I am with them at the moment, but plan to do more searching.

Very glad to have made contact with you and am only sorry that we didn't manage to make the contact before you came to Scotland! My Nicolson relatives are spread right across Canada, from Montreal to Vancouver (many in Winnepeg) and the rest are in Australia. I'm glad that I put "Ross" in my signature and that I'd made a post that allowed you to find me!

Thanks for the photos you sent. We've nothing to compare them to, but I have an idea and may be able to find someone who might know. I've got lots of unidentified photos (which we all presumed to be Walker/Nicolson family) but they may be Rosses. I will scan them and and them to you this week.

I have some photos of my grandfather and great grandfather Ross and will scan these and send them. Despite the fact that the family seems to have lost contact, it's strange how the same names kept appearing.

Cheers!

For D Ross - it would be interesting to see if you are connected in some way to us. Our family came from Forres and before that, deepest darkest Ross and Cromarty, where almost every other person was called "Ross".
Liz

[D Ross]

Great to see some new entries. I haven't been very active recently. The Ross's of Morayshire, whom I have researched are Alexander Ross, who married Isobel Watson 1780, and resided in the Forres area. One son, also named Alexander, of course, became a noted explorer and fur trader. I originally thought these were my ancestors, based on a community history publication in Ontario Canada. Turns out there were two Ross family history's. The second being of a family who resided in Sutherlandshire at Tutumtarvach in late 1700s, early 1800s. This is the family of my lineage. However I have amassed quite a large amount of data on both families and the stories are incredible. Not sure of relations to the families whom you are researching. You never know. Looking forward to more communications

[joette]

from a Ross of Ross & Cromarty decendant! Made me laugh & usually I'm tearing my hair out trying to work out which Ross is which(they're never mine either).