Tracking Londonderry marriage in 1843

[tmerrell]

We are trying to find a marriage record for 2 ancestors, Sarah Kirk and David King in Londonderry Ireland back in 1842-3. We tried writing the local history center only to find out that it is currently closed so no access to records there in Derry. Anyone know of other resources to check? No luck on a census or parish records so far. Also have tried looking on Griffith's valuations and tithe applotment with no luck so far.
Any help very much appreciated.

[scotmum]

A Central Signposting Index for Londonderry has them marrying in 1844. which is also, unfortunately, just before official records, so unless you know at which church, then it is unlikely you will be able to further your search until the genealogy centre in Londonderry re-opens (sorry, no info on this).

Did they go to Scotland? If yes and if they were the parents of a Samuel King born 1857, then Samel's Scottish birth certificate should note his parents marriage location and date. Likewise should the certificates of any other siblings born around the same time or later.

[AndrewP]

Did they go to Scotland? If yes and if they were the parents of a Samuel King born 1857, then Samel's Scottish birth certificate should note his parents marriage location and date. Likewise should the certificates of any other siblings born around the same time or later.

Sadly birth certificates from 1856 to 1860 do not show the details of the parents' marriage.

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/conte ... 628#Births

All the best,

AndrewP

[scotmum]

Whoops, forgot.

[tmerrell]

They did have 3 kids that were born in Ireland. Any good ideas for tracking those births?

[scotmum]

The followin link lists King births, including some around the 1844 timescale. Again, these are pre official records and so will be sourced from Church records:

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/csi/csi_bi ... CountyID=7

[scotmum]

Also forgot to ask, did David and Sarah die in Scotland? If yes, their death certificates should give their respective parents' names.

[tmerrell]

On Sarah's death certificate from Scotland it does list a Thomas Kirk as the father with an unknown mother???
On David's death notice from Mass., USA it lists a Samuel king as the father and a Mary as the mother. We cannot connect them to them in Scotland so far and have tried looking in Ireland but without any results so far.
Thus we are hoping to find the marriage record somewhere to show us the location of their parents hopefully.

[scotmum]

Certainly Tithe Applotments for Londonderry list a Samuel King in 1826 and 1827, so possibilities for your David's father. Also, some sources indicate two Samuel's as listed in the 1858 Griffiths Valuation, whilst others note one, a Samul King at Dunglade (Glebe) townland, in Faughanvale Parish.

Frustrating as it is at the moment, at least you know from the CSI that David and Sarah's marriage record has been seen and noted by the genealogy centre at some point and you can hope that it re-opens again or that the records for Londonderry are passed to another source for sharing, like some of the Irish Family History sites that have come online recently.

What about trying PRONI for thefragments of the 1831 Census of Londonderry Heads of Household Index. This, if it includes any Samuel King, may be helpful in your search.

[scotmum]

OK, may or may not be your chap Samuel, but interestingly, just as Griffiths Valuation noted a Samuel at Dunglade (Glebe) townland in Faughanvale, PRONI wills calendar have an entry in 1897 for a chap who died in 11th October 1896. He was a Samuel King, late of Glebe, Faughanvale, a Farmer. His effects were £283 5s 6d. The Will ref is 63950. May be worth pursuing this with PRONI (they can check and copy wills for a fee, I believe).