McFadyen/McFadgen/McFadzean, etc from Scotland

[McFaddeninUSA]

My surname is McFadden and is derived from other variations as listed in the subject line of this post. I am desperately seeking any information that can assist me in finding lost ancestors and help in putting together my family tree. Please contact me if you have any information whatsoever in regards to any of the following or their ancestors:

John McFadzean b Ireland
Joseph McFadzean b 1803 Ireland
married to Mary Fisher b 1806 Ireland
Joseph McFadyen b 27/3/1840 Muirkirk Ayrshire
married Janet Smith b 1842 Carluke Lanarkshire
William S. McFadyen b 28/12/1864 Scotland, & his brother
Joseph McFadyen b 23/10/1862 Riccarton, Ayrshire Scotland

The last two listed above were brothers & emigrated to the USA in August of 1888. I am a direct descendant of all listed and am desperately searching for more information regarding their past and their descendants. I would absolutely LOVE to make contact with lost relatives in Scotland or elsewhere who would be interested in communicating and sharing information and/or stories.

Feel free to contact me on this website, or directly at vette4040ATaol.com.

Thank you!

Kevin

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[Tracey]

Hello Kevin

Warm welcome to I do hope you find some connection to your family or the help you need.

Tracey

Oh.......email addresses are edited on TS to avoid spammers sending spam to your email address. I know how good aol is at avoiding it but we just like to make sure

[deano]

Hello Kevin,

Your Joseph McFadyen, born about 1840. Muirkirk, Ayr, who goes on to marry Janet Smith.

There children were born ie.

Joseph McFadyen, 13/June/1862. Lesmahagow, Lanark,
William McFadyen, 28/Feb/1864, Lesmahagow, Lanark,
Ann Smith McFadyen, 04/Aug/1866, Lesmahagow, Lanark.

On the 1881 census, in Lesmahagow, Lanark, 1 Longlee Terrace,

McFadyen Joseph, Head, Coal Miner, M. age 41 years, born Muirkirk, Ayr,
McFadyen Jane, Wife, M. age 39 years, born Carluke, Lanark,
McFadyen Joseph, son Coal Miner, U. age 18 years, born Lesmahagow, Lanark,
McFadyen William, son, Coal Miner, U. age 17 years, born Lesmahagow, Lanark,
McFadyen Brown Walter, Step Son, Coal Miner, U. age 21 years, born Lesmahagow, Lanark,
McFadyen Brown Margaret, Step Daur, General Servant, U. age 19 years, born Lesmahagow, Lanark,
McFadyen Brown Jane, Step Daur, Scholar, age 13 years, born Lesmahagow, Lanark,
McFadyen Brown Lilas, Step Daur, Scholar, age 11 years, born Lesmahagow, Lanark,
McFadyen Brown Mart T. Step Daur, Scholar, age 6 years, born Lemahagow, Lanark.

Looks to me Janet Smith, died sometime after her youngest child Ann Smith McFadyen, was born 1866, and Joseph, is now with a widow previously called Jane Brown.

Regards,
Jonn.

[McFaddeninUSA]

Thank you John. I should have clarified that I do have information on the immediate families of those listed with the exception of the first, John McFadzean. I'm very interested though in learning of anybody who has been able to trace all the way back to those individuals mentioned (to know of any long lost relatives) or to learn of John McFadzean's spouse, parents, children, etc and so on.

I do appreciate your reply!

Kevin

[deano]

Hello Kevin,

Janet Smith McFadyen, died 1876, aged 34 years, Lesmahagow, Lanark.

Regards,
Jonn.

[deano]

Hello Kevin,

I noticed you did not have a age for the John McFadyen, born Ireland, so i take it you dont know if he came to Scotland, with his son Joseph, who was married to Mary Fisher.

The Family moved from Muirkirk, Ayrshire, to Lesmahagow, sometime between 1841, and 1851.

Mary Fisher McFadyen, died in Lesmahagow, aged 80 years, in 1886, she was a widow on the 1881. census in Lesmahagow.

There is a death for a Joseph McFad*n, 1867. Lesmahagow, aged 64 years, which works out correct for your Joseph, Senior. this death should provide his mother and fathers, names provided the informant new them.

Regards,
Jonn.

[Liz Turner]

Hi there Kevin and welcome ...

I presume, like many folks who are searching for ancestors in Ireland, that you're not sure which part of Ireland they come from? There has always been an exchange of people between Ireland, particularly the north, and Scotland. My own family on my dad's side originate there, and my sister married an Irishman who shares the McFadden name with you.

My dad's family moved for employment reasons and came to the west of Scotland to find similar work, so often if you can find a census entry here it gives you an idea of why they moved to a particular area.

Bear in mind that the 1840s into the 50s were times of particular famine in Ireland and thousands of people left the island to come to mainland UK. The Irish economy was very largely agricultural, with only parts round Dublin and then around Belfast having any other employment of note.

Sometimes people followed earlier family members who had moved, but often they came to the UK in search of work of any kind, or transport on to the colonies which were undergoing massive influxes of people and investment. The 1840s onwards are the big time for Victorian industrialisation both in the mainland UK and the colonies, and many trades were crying out for workers - coal mines, shipyards, railways and building were all undergoing massive expansion in order to fuel the industrial revolution and to extend/develop the empire.

You obviously have experience of the variations in spellings of the name and this will make your searching that bit harder. You'll find the people on this site are very helpful and happy to share what knowledge we have, and offer encouragement when we can.

Cheers for now.

Liz

[McFaddeninUSA]

I want to take a moment and thank everyone for their responses and words of encouragement. I appreciate the friendliness I've experienced thus far in climbing my 'tree'. I also want to express how incredibly strong the desire to travel to Scotland & Ireland is now within me. I never had the urge to want to travel out of my USA until now. Since I've been researching my family tree, I can only describe it as kind of a calling that I've been feeling that is drawing me to find a way over there. I don't just want to come over for a few days either, I want to do it when I can spend 2-4 weeks and truly explore and enjoy the beauty that I can now only see in pictures. My one fear: That I'll not want to leave.

As for my ancestor John, I do not have anything on him other than his name and place of birth. I honestly do not know the approximate time frame of when he and his son Joseph came to Scotland. I did notice though on the 1851 Scotland Census that Joseph had a nephew named James living with him which shows that Joseph had a brother. The name of that brother is a mystery at this time but you can be assured that I'm going to be doing my best to find him. I do believe that there is a strong possibility that I have a branch of my family still over there and would love to find them.

Thanks again, will talk to you later!

Kevin

[elmca]

Hi, just recently got back into my family tree stuff and read your post - I have McFadyens in my family but hadn't done much work on them so your post got me started on a bit of digging - I was interested as my family also came from Ayrshire. I finally managed to get back to 1851 - the census for Kilmaurs in Ayrshire - the family are under the name McFadzean (no wonder I couldn't find them!) and even more surprising was that my ggggrandfather Joseph McFadzean is listed as born in Ireland - that was a complete surprise to me and I am wondering if there is connection with your family. I can't find a death cert for joseph but I know he was alive in 1873 so I am hopeful that I can come up with something eventually, hopefully that would give me the name of his parents. He married Jane Brown (born Kilmarnock) and their first child Mary was my gggrandmother. Anyway - just thought it was interesting - there might be a connection you never know. all the best! [/b]

[Montrose Budie]

Thank you John. I should have clarified that I do have information on the immediate families of those listed with the exception of the first, John McFadzean. I'm very interested though in learning of anybody who has been able to trace all the way back to those individuals mentioned (to know of any long lost relatives) or to learn of John McFadzean's spouse, parents, children, etc and so on.

I do appreciate your reply!

Kevin

Hi Kevin

Given the starting info that you have it is quite a straightforward task to trace forward to living relatives in the Scottish records. Some of this can be done on-line, but, at some stage, a visit to the archive in Edinburgh will be necessary, in order to view the images of births after 1908, marriages after 1933, and deaths after 1958.

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