Looking for Scottish Ancestors
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tracymac
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by tracymac » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:56 pm
Hi,
Am relatively new to all of this so please bear with me!
I am trying to trace possible siblings for Jane Ann FDC Fairweather who was born on 25th Sept 1901 to Agnes and Alexander Fairweather in Cupar, Fife. I have tried searching over a ten year period in this area and further afield and either draw a complete blank or end up with hundreds of potentials to trawl through (on ScotlandsPeople site). Trouble is the family seemed to have moved around a lot - I can find records of parents and/or Jane in Lochee, Cupar, Kirkcaldy and Innerleithen! Is there any other way I could try to track the information online?

Thank you
Tracy
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LesleyB
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by LesleyB » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:26 pm
Hi Tracey
WIth a date after 1875, so past the time period the IGI tends to concentrate on, I don't know of any efficient way to find a group of siblings if the family moved about and if the surname is one which crops up quite often in an area. The quickest and most efficient way I can think of would be to pay a visit to NRH and look through the records, but that is not going to be the news you wnat to hear in Cornwall!
Online the full versions of the birth entires stop in 1907 in any case as there is a 100year closure on birth records so there may not be much to view online in any case, if, for example, the child you do know of, Jane Ann, was the eldest.
A few years to wait until the 1911 census will be available, but that would probably help with your search.
Best wishes
Lesley
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AnneM
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by AnneM » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:23 pm
Hi Tracey
Do you know the surname of Agnes and when they were married? As far as I can see there are 3 Alexanders who marry an Agnes in about the right time frame, 2 in Angus and one in Fife.
Have you looked for the deaths of Alexander or Agnes? Your best bet for identifying a sibling might be to find an informant on the death certificate.
Anne
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WilmaM
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by WilmaM » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:24 pm
Do you have her parents in the 1901 census?
Were there any siblings shown with them then or is Jane [as Lesly asked] the eldest child.
Another way of spotting siblings is as witnesses to a marriage or as informants on the parent's death certificate.
Did Jane marry? and have you tracked down both her and her parent's Death entries?
Lots of questions rather than answers for you at this stage, but it's helpful to know all the information that you do have.
Wilma
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by winslowsmom » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:50 am
Hello Tracy
Have you had any luck finding the marriage certificate of Agnes and Alexander? The names of their parents could help you narrow down the
names of their children. Many people did stick to the traditional naming
patterns, and so far, they are very traditional names. For example, if the marriage certificate told you that Agnes' parents were Sophia and Daniel, then you would look for a Sophia and Daniel Fairweather as siblings for Jane Ann Even better, if Agnes' mother was Sophia McMillan, and there was a Sophia McMillan Fairweather, then you could be pretty sure that it would be worth paying to see the certificate.
I had always thought my grandfather was an only child. But one day I had some extra credits and searched grand parents given names and found he had had 2 siblings, traditionally named for the grandparents, but who had sadly died before their 4th birthdays, which is why we never knew them.
Also, in searching for the siblings, make sure you allow a couple of years before the marriage to make sure you catch any early birds. I've found a few extras that way!
Good luck and welcome
Cathy
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by nelmit » Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:03 pm
tracymac wrote:Hi,
Am relatively new to all of this so please bear with me!
I am trying to trace possible siblings for Jane Ann FDC Fairweather who was born on 25th Sept 1901 to Agnes and Alexander Fairweather in Cupar, Fife. I have tried searching over a ten year period in this area and further afield and either draw a complete blank or end up with hundreds of potentials to trawl through (on ScotlandsPeople site). Trouble is the family seemed to have moved around a lot - I can find records of parents and/or Jane in Lochee, Cupar, Kirkcaldy and Innerleithen! Is there any other way I could try to track the information online?

Thank you
Another way of trying is to search for a death of a surname Fairweather with mother's maiden name. This only works at the moment if the person died after about 1970.
I tried it with the surname Smith (the couple who were married at Lochee in 1899) born 1905 + or - 5 years and got 20 results. If you are lucky they may have middle names that you may recognise, or named after grans and grandfathers. But of course it could be none of them.
It's worth a shot at 1 credit to look.
Hope this makes sense.
Regards,
Annette
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tracymac
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by tracymac » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:45 pm
Thank you all for your replies. I have not yet tracked the death certificates of Jane or her parents but will try this route and see where I get to.
Janes parents were Agnes (nee Smith) and Alexander - they were married in Lochee,Angus in Aug 1899. At that time Alexander was 25 and Agnes 21.
Agnes' parents were Robert and Janet (nee Roy I think?!) Smith and Alexanders parents were Robert and Matilda (nee Walter). In the 1901 census only Agnes and Alexander were listed (then living in Kirkcaldy) - I think this is because the census was done in March(may?) and Jane was born in Sept.
Jane then married in 1919 to George Salton at Innerleithen, Peebles. She had one dughter that I am aware of (my grandmother) Alexina Fairweather or Salton. I get the impression that George was not Alexina's father.... Alexina was brought up by other people in Boat of Garten and although she called her "parents" Aunt and Uncle (they were a brother and sister) we are not sure that they were actually relatives.
I am hoping that if I can find siblings for Jane then I may be able to identify who the "parents" were related to (if at all!). I dont think I have any way of finding out who Alexina's father really was as there are no clues on birth certificate.
I will let you all know how I get on trying to track death certificates and whether I find anymore clues..
Tracy
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WilmaM
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by WilmaM » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:36 pm
Alexina was brought up by other people in Boat of Garten and although she called her "parents" Aunt and Uncle (they were a brother and sister) we are not sure that they were actually relatives.
Do you know the names of these people? and have you tried to trace their details?
I appreciate though, as they may be still alive or within the 100 year birth ruling that posting their details on here is not allowed - but wondered if you had attempted that route.
Wilma
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tracymac
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by tracymac » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:47 pm
WilmaM wrote:Alexina was brought up by other people in Boat of Garten and although she called her "parents" Aunt and Uncle (they were a brother and sister) we are not sure that they were actually relatives.
Do you know the names of these people? and have you tried to trace their details?
I appreciate though, as they may be still alive or within the 100 year birth ruling that posting their details on here is not allowed - but wondered if you had attempted that route.
Unfortunately one of them is still alive. I have their surname but not dates of birth/locations etc. I dont think my mum knows any more details either - I will try to track based on Boat of Garten venue and their rough ages and see where I get to.
Thanks for the tip -would never have thought of tracking this way.
Tracy
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tracymac
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by tracymac » Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:54 pm
After using nearly 40 credits I have managed to find both parents death records!
Agnes was registered by Alexander Fairweather in 1932 in Linlightgow
Alexander was registered by his daughter !! Amy Hutchins in Dundee West in 1954.
Now it gets interesting - when I searched for Amy's birth record I could not find her as a Fairweather, her death certificate shows Amy Elizabeth D Hutchins (d 1979 aged 64). It shows other name as Fairweather but mothers surname is not permissable?? Is it possible she was not Agnes Fairweather's by birth? I think I may need to send off fora print of her death certificate for further information.
Am really struggling with this one now. 1901 census shows only Alexander and Agnes only, Jane was not born to the Sept. I guess that if Amy is also their baby then there are likely to be others born in-between. Any idea's on how to track them??
Tracy
Also looking for Fairweather, Barclay, Richmond, Salton