The Gemmell Family Renfrewshire

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RAYMOND
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The Gemmell Family Renfrewshire

Post by RAYMOND » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:29 pm

Hi everyone,
I am trying to find any related family members of John Gemmell born about 1850 in Paisley, his wife was Janet Bradshaw and they were married at Middle Church Paisley on the 30th. October 1868.
The family home then was 5 Philips Street,Paisley. They had six children.........

George Gemmell
Janet
William
James Killed in The Great War on the 20th. October 1914
Robert
Margaret

The above James Gemmell was my Grandfather and i have traced his life from enlisting in the army in 1903 to his final resting place in Belgium.
His brother William at 16yrs. was a Butcher.His home was (the second house) High Street, Peockland Houses, Paisley.
Due to the fortunes of war and allthough our family were aware we had relatives in the Paisley area we never had any knowledge of who they were.
If there is any Gemmell"s out thier and think we may be related in sum way or anyone who my be able to help me with my research please reply.

Raymond Gemmell

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Post by trish1 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:24 pm

Looking at the Census the family of John and Janet seems to be as follows

1881 Paisley Abbey Renfrewshire
John Gimmell 31 head mechanic thread mill born Johnston
Janet Gimmell 31 wife born paisley
George Gimmell 12 son scholar born Paisley
Peter Gimmell 8 son scholar born Johnston
John Gimmell 6 son scholar born Paisley
Janet Gimmell 3 dau born paisley
James Gimmell 1 son born Paisley

1871 Johnstone, Paisley Abbey Renfrewshire
18 Ranking Street
John Gemmell 21 head born Johnstone Engine Turner St Works
Janet Gemmell 21 wife born Paisley
George Archibald Gemmell 2 son born Paisley
Agnes Taylor Gemmell 1 dau born Paisley
James Gemmell 12 brother born Johnstone

Births to 1875 are in the IGI
George Archibald 3 dec 1868 High Church Paisley
Agnes Taylor 1 apr 1870 - High Church, Paisley
Peter 13 Jun 1872 - Abbey Paisley
John 16 Oct 1874 Abbey Paisley

Tracing John further back
1861Paisley Abbey, District of Johnstone Renfrewshire
High Street Peackland Houses
Peter Gemmell 55 head Flesher born Paisley
Margaret Gemmell 38 wife born Johnstone
William Gemmell 16 son Flesher born Johnstone
John Gemmell 11 son Cotton Mill hand and scholar born Johnstone
George R Gemmell 4 son born Johnstone
James Gemmell 2 son born Johnstone

It would seem father Peter may have remarried, given the age differences of the children but this seems incorrect as in 1851 his wife is also Margaret & father Peter's age is very different?

1851 Paisley Abbey, Johnstone Renfrewshire
57 High Street
Peter Gemmell 26 head Flesher born Paisley
Margt Gemmell 28 wife born Johnstone
William Gemmell 4 son scholar born Johnstone
Peter Gemmell 4 son scholar born Johnstone
John Gemmell 1 son born Johnstone
Agness Gemmell 14 servant House Servant born Paisley
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Post by trish1 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:42 pm

1891 shows more children - it would be worth getting some census images to check the transcriptions - but it appears a couple of children have died - there seem to have been two named James

1891 Paisley Abbey Renfrewshire
7 Abbey Terrace
John Gemmell 41 head thread mill mechanic born Paisley
Janet Gemmell 41 wife mechanic's wife born Paisley
Georgina Gemmell 22 son Tailor born Paisley (George A)
Peter Gemmell 18 son grocer born Johnstone
John Gemmell 16 son Packing Case Maker Apprentice born Paisley
Janet Gemmell 13 dau scholar born Paisley
William Gemmell 9 son scholar born paisley
James Gemmell 7 son scholar born Paisley
Robert Gemmell 4 son born Paisley
Margaret R Gemmell 1 dau born Paisley

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Post by trish1 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:10 pm

IGI Extracted marriage
Peter Gemmell married Margaret Rodger 19 Dec 1840 Abbey (Paisley) Renfrew M119591 1831 - 1844 1041090, 0889472

In 1841 Peter Gemmell and Margaret Gemmel, both aged 20 are living at High Street, Paisley Low Peter is listed as a Flesher

IGI Extracted births to Peter Gemmell and Margaret
William Rodger Gemmell 19 Feb 1845
Jean McQuaarrie Gemmel 5 Apr 1854
George Rodger Gemmell 2 Sep 1856
Andrew Gemmell 21 Nov 1858
James Gemmell 21 Nov 1858

There are some submitted IGI records for other births - you may find more on SP - OPR records

Trish

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The Gemmell Family Renfrewshire

Post by RAYMOND » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:50 pm

Hi Trish,
Thank you for your speedy reply i never thought i would ever get so much info. I have had a look at the docs. that i have obtained and it all seems to come together, so thank you for your help in traceing the family that none of us ever knew. :D

Regards
Raymond Gemmell.