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karen1960 · Post by **karen1960** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:13 pm

Hi all
I'm looking for my grandfather who's name is THOMAS SCOTT we think he lived in Midlothian and was born 1904-1907, he then emigrated to Australia about 1927-1928 don't know anymore really than that oh he was a sandpit worker.

Any help
Thank you
Karen Hawksworth

Post by **SarahND** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:28 pm

Hi Karen,

There are 33 Thomas Scott births registered in Midlothian in the range 1903-1908
"Only" 17 if you are sure enough to restrict it to 1904-1907.

But how to know which one is yours? Hmmmm. I take it you have no death cert for him, or that it doesn't list his parents? Ditto for marriage cert?

Did he have any siblings you know about? That could help narrow down which parents are the correct ones.

Which records are the possible dates of birth taken from?

All the best,
Sarah

trish58 · Post by **trish58** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:45 pm

Hi Karen

I just had a look at the passenger list's for Australia, the are only 6, T or Thomas Scott born between 1903-1908, sailing in the years between 1925-1930, the were miners, one soldier, two not specified.

When you get a little more info on the family I will have another look for you as a couple are traveling with several family members.

Good luck
Trish

Post by **joette** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:27 pm

Karen(hi) problem is that she does not know anything about Thomas apart from the fact he was in Scotland(Edinburgh) around 1927 as he fathered a child & was then in Australia when the child was born.
The child's parents were not married so no info from that.
I am trying to be circumspect as I have only written privatelty to Karen about this & don't know how much info she wants publicised & also that living people may/may not be involved.
I was in fact going to post this query for help myself but Karen beat me to it.
My head is a bit wooly at the moment-need my B12 again!

Post by **SarahND** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:42 pm

Hi Joette,
Is it known where he went in Australia? Did he stay there? I assume you've already been down this road, but it will be difficult to find more about him in Scotland until more has been found in Australia (a marriage or death or something). From what you say, it seems that the only thing known is that he fathered a child who was born in Edinburgh and that it was said that he had gone to Australia? Was he ever heard from again?

Sounds like a difficult one!

Cheers,
Sarah

Post by **joette** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:32 pm

I don't know if Karen has positive proof that he actually went to Australia or whether it was just said that he had.
Her Father is trying to track down what happened.
Like you I agree it's going to be difficult unless there is some documenatation with more info about him.
Her Grandmother-Elizabeth Aitchinson was a housekeeper & in the Poorhouse when the baby was born or shortly thereafter.
Is that a route worth pursuing-any Archives similar to Glasgow's excellent ones?
Would Social Services who provided this info have provided all that they have or would they have held anything back?

Post by **SarahND** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:26 pm

joette wrote: Her Grandmother-Elizabeth Aitchinson was a housekeeper & in the Poorhouse when the baby was born or shortly thereafter.
Is that a route worth pursuing-any Archives similar to Glasgow's excellent ones?
Would Social Services who provided this info have provided all that they have or would they have held anything back?

Very good questions. It seems to me that is the place to start. Anyone out there know about social services in Midlothian?

All the best,
Sarah

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:09 pm

Hi all

I was told by an archivist at the Edinburgh City Archives some years back, when trying to find out a little more about a relative who had been in the poorhouse that all the Edinburgh Poor Law records had been incinerated - I think he said that this had happened in the 1960s.

Best wishes
Lesley

trish1 · Post by **trish1** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:48 pm

Probably a red herring, but there are a number of Thomas Scotts from Scotland in the Australian WWII list - if your Thomas did come to Australia & if he may have enlisted

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/name.asp

The only one I find from Edinburgh is a Thomas Leslie Scott but there are others - the location of which is not familiar to me. The full details of the service are available here - for a fee
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/record ... index.aspx (search as a guest) - although if someone has already paid, the images are then available to all for no charge.

And as I check Thomas leslie has been digitised and his trade/occupation is given as platelayer - not too close to what you want

Trish

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:05 am

Good thinking to check that, Trish!

trish1 wrote: And as I check Thomas leslie has been digitised and his trade/occupation is given as platelayer - not too close to what you want

But since this is 13 years later and in a different country, it wouldn't be surprising if he had changed occupations.

The problem as I see it is that we only know that he fathered a child who was later born in Edinburgh... he could have been born anywhere himself

So there are a number of them with convincing birthdates. He could have been the one born in Kirkintilloch, or the one born in Kilwinning, or even the ones born in Nottingham, Newcastle or Liverpool...

Somehow, one has the feeling he must be one of those, but which one!

Regards,
Sarah

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