DRAPERS SHOP BANFF

jamdons · Post by **jamdons** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:32 am

Hello there......My great grandfather was a Master Draper he owned a shop in Low Street BANFF.He was in partnership with another gentleman and the shop was known AS LOBBAN and CRICHTON.
This would have been pre 1927........anyone out there have any information on the above.

Many Thanks

John [scotland-flag]

Post by **Tracey** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:23 am

Hello John

Have you seen this article in The Banffshire Journal which includes a photo ?
http://www.banffshire-journal.co.uk/new ... _1932.html

What exactly are you hoping to find out ? If you can be more specific with your question it may make it easier for someone to help you.

Tracey

jamdons · Post by **jamdons** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:52 am

Thank you Tracey ......i am very new to this. And to be quite honest i dont what i am looking for.That may sound strange.
But the things i have uncovered in my few short weeks delving and looking in to my family history have taken me back a bit.
Obviously i knew i had great grandparents...... but my grandparents died very young ......my mother died recently .......my father left us some 40 years ago.I have no relatives to glean information from i am trying to build a picture of my family and any little bit of information is helpful.
There was obviously a huge rift in my family from the mid 1800's ....... as i have recently found out that my great grandparents were still alive in the mid 1960's when i lived in Aberdeen but they were never mentioned and my father never returned for there funerals.
The Crichton who owned the drapers shop was my great grandfather he died in 1927...... his widow died in a nursing home in Aberdeen in 1975.
I am just looking for anything at all.

Many Thanks

John

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:10 pm

Hello John,

Would this be your great grandfather in the 1901 census?

6, Back Path Hazeldean, Banff, Banffshire
Andrew Crichton, 28, Head, born Turiff, Aberdeenshire, Drapers Assistant
Catherine Crichton, 69, Mother, born Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Formerly Farmer's Wife
Annie Cruickshank, 19, Boarder, born Ythan Wells, Aberdeenshire, Dressmaker

If so, it is easy to go backward in the censuses and find out more about the family.

All the best,
Sarah

jamdons · Post by **jamdons** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:46 pm

Hiya Sarah

Thank you very much for your input.Yes by the dates you have given me and the name of his mother Catherine .... i think you have pin pointed my great grandfather.
But being new to all this how do i use the census to provide me with more information..... once again many thanks for your help.

REGARDS

John

deano · Post by **deano** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:35 pm

Hello John,

If the census of 1901. that Sarah, provided in the previous post is your family then this looks like your family in 1881.

George Crichton, Head, Farmer of 84 acres arable, employing 1 man 1 girl 1 boy, M. age 54 years, M. born Auchterless, Aberdeen,
Catherine Crichton, Wife, M. age 49 years, F. born Auchterless, Aberdeen,
George Crichton, Son, Scholar, M. age 10 years, born Turriff, Aberdeen,
Andrew J. C. Crichton, Son, Scholar, M. age 9 Years, born Turriff, Aberdeen,
Catherine J.C. Jessiman, Neice, Scholar, F. age 5 years, born Auchterless, Aberdeen,
Jane Bowie, Domestic Servant, F. age 39 years, born Huntly, Aberdeen,
Henry Fordyce, Farm Servant, M. age 15 years, born Monquhitter, Aberdeen.

Do you know the maiden name of Andrew's, mother Catherine, and if so was it Kindness.

Regards,
Jonn.

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:45 pm

Hi John,
To see the actual images of the census forms, you would need to download them from Scotland's People http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk This can be done for a fee.

Otherwise, you can see transcriptions of the Scottish censuses on Ancestry.co.uk -- also for a fee, I'm afraid. Unfortunately, they are not always accurately transcribed, but the search is much more flexible. I have an annual subscription, so had a look for your ancestor the draper and guessed which one he must be.

Since Deano has given you the 1881 transcription, here is the 1891 to bridge the two.

1891
26 Fife St, Banff, Banffshire
Jane Boyd, 55, Head, born Drumblade, Aberdeenshire
Mary J Boyd, 16, Daur, born Banff, Banffshire, Millliner
John L Milton, 26, Lodger, born Deskford, Banffshire, Elementary School Teacher
Andrew C. Crichton, 19, Lodger, born Turriff, Aberdeenshire, Draper
James Kindness, 15, Lodger, born Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Telegraph Messenger
James Troup, 16, Lodger, born Alvah, Banffshire, Draper

In that year, his parents are still on the farm in Turriff.

1891
Woodton, Turriff, Aberdeenshire
George Crichton, 64, Head, born Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Farmer
Catherine Crichton, 59, Wife, born Auchterless, Aberdeenshire
George Crichton, 20, Son, born Turriff, Aberdeenshire, Farmer's Son
Catherine J C Jessiman, 15, Niece, born Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, General Serv Dom
Jean Bowie, 57, Serv, born Huntly, Aberdeenshire, General Serv Dom
Francis Gall, 14, Serv, born Millbrek, Aberdeenshire, Farm Servant

On the Scotland's People site you can also purchase the images of birth, marriage and death certificates. For instance, it looks as though Andrew's father must have died between 1891 and 1901. His death certificate should give his parents' names, which would help you get back another generation.

All the best,
Sarah

deano · Post by **deano** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:59 pm

Hello John, and Sarah,

Yes Sarah, George Crichton, died 1896, and the son George, seems to have died in 1897. aged 27 years, all in Turiff.

Thats likely the reason mother Catherine, has moved to Banff, by 1901. to live with son Andrew.

Catherine Kindness Crichton, died in Banff, 1920 aged aged 88 years.

Regards,
Jonn.

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:10 pm

Hi Jonn,
That is a great maiden surname for Catherine! But very sad that her husband and son died one after the other.

Regards,
Sarah

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:41 pm

Catherine Kindness Crichton, died in Banff, 1920 aged aged 88 years.

I'd have taken that as a middle name rather than a maiden name.
But maybe that is my Scots interpretation of what was written.

Best wishes
Lesley