George Duncan Guthrie

[Waverley]

I am looking for information about the named person. Who I may be related to?
He left Johnstone Scotland after becoming a master potter with Port Dundas Pottery to try his luck at gold mining but discovered great clay and decided he should use this clay and opened the Bendigo Pottery in 1851.
Any information would be helpful.

[Ina]

If you do a websearch for him you will find many articles about him. Here is just one:
http://www.auspottery.com/Bendigo_history.htm

Ina

[Waverley]

Hi Ina
Thanks for that info, and I now have to check if he married and had any children and I am tracing his life in Scotland to ascertain if there is a link between my family tree
regards Jim

[SarahND]

Hello Jim,
Is he the one who is already on his own at 13 in the 1841 census? A Potter Apprentice living with the Fleming family on Port Dundas Road in Barony, Lanarkshire. I suppose you have already checked this, but there are several births of a George Guthrie about that time on the IGI. This one looks most promising according to date and mother's maiden name:

Christening: 01 JUN 1828  
Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland
Father: Adam
Mother: Elizabeth Duncan

A parent search shows him to be the youngest in a family of four, the others sisters:

Georgina Guthrie
Birth: 26 JUL 1817  
Christening: 10 AUG 1817  Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland

Helen Duncan Guthrie
Birth: 05 NOV 1819  
Christening: 14 NOV 1819  Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland

Mary Guthrie
Birth: 13 JUN 1823 
Christening: 06 JUL 1823  Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland

I don't see any sign of Adam and Elizabeth in 1841, so perhaps he was orphaned early.

All the best,
Sarah

[SarahND]

Hmmmm. I take that back about his being orphaned. Here is what appears to be the whole family together in 1851:

13 Grove Street, Glasgow St George
Adam Guthrie, 59, Head, born Sundrum, Ayrshire, Coal Agent
Elizabeth Guthrie, 56, Wife, born Glasgow, Lanark
Mary Guthrie, 27, Daughter, born Glasgow, Lanark, Dress Maker
George Guthrie, 22, Son, born Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Potter
Elizabeth Guthrie, 20, Daughter, born Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Dress Maker
Isabella Guthrie, 17, Daughter, born Renfrew, Renfrewshire

So he left for Australia after the census.

All the best,
Sarah

P.S. Elizabeth Guthrie, other surname Duncan, died in Glasgow City in 1855 age 60. Definitely worth a look!

[Waverley]

Hi Sarah
thanks for this information which I did not have and only started looking this morning.
Still to find out if we are related
Regards Jim

[Currie]

Is this any help?

Glasgow Herald, Friday, February 2, 1855
DEATHS.
At 281 St. George’s Road, on the 30th ultimo, Elizabeth Duncan, wife of Mr. Adam Guthrie.

The Argus (Melbourne, Friday, 5 September, 1856
MARRIED.
At Prahran, by the Rev. George Divorty, Mr. Hugh M’Coll, printer, Melbourne, to Mary, eldest daughter of Adam Guthrie, Esq., formerly of St. George’s Road, Glasgow.
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/ar ... guthrie%22

Glasgow Herald, Monday, January 5, 1857
MARRIAGES.
At Argyll Place, Helensburgh, on the 31st ult., by the Rev. David Duff, Mr. Wm. Burrell, ship agent, Glasgow, to Isabella, youngest daughter of Mr. Adam Guthrie, Australia.

Glasgow Herald, Friday, January 15, 1886
MARRIAGES.
BURRELL—SCOTT.—At Scott’s Grove, Ballina, Ireland, on the 14th inst., at 1 P.M., Adam Guthrie Burrell, to Clara Jane Scott.

Glasgow Herald, Saturday, July 17, 1886
Adam Guthrie Burrell, 316 Bath Street, Glasgow, son of the late William Burrell, shipowner and shipping agent, Glasgow, brought an action against Mrs Isabella Guthrie or Burrell, Bowling; George Burrell, shipowner, Glasgow etc. ………. (For a greater share of estate)

Glasgow Herald, Wednesday, October 17, 1888
University of Glasgow.—The following gentlemen have passed their first professional examination for the degrees of M.B. and C.M.:— ………. Adam Guthrie Burrell, ……..

Christchurch Press, Wednesday, 5 March, 1913
WIGHTMAN - BURRELL -
on 4th February at Chalmers presbyterian Church, Timaru. by Rev Macaulay Caldwell, Robert Wallace Wightman of Methven, 3rd son of the late Matthew Wightman, Sutherlands, to Isabella Mary Houston Burrell, of Cave, only daughter of the late Dr. Adam Guthrie Burrell, Glasgow, Scotland.
http://searches2.rootsweb.com/th/read/N ... 1126646595

Adam G Burrell and his family are on this ship in 1893 http://www.ellisisland.org/shipping/For ... 09&shipid=

Adam Guthrie Burrell died 1907 New Zealand aged 47.

Alan

[SarahND]

=D> What a wonderful collection of information, Alan! Let's hope that Jim can see a connection there somewhere.

Adam G Burrell, 34, Surgeon and his wife Clara and children George G., Isabella and Robert were heading for Wyoming, according to that 1893 passenger list you found. They obviously didn't stay, as you have his death in New Zealand and I don't see the family in the U.S. in 1900. Well, Wyoming quite literally isn't for everybody Except for Alaska, I think it has the lowest number of people per square mile of any state.

According to what you found then, after George's mother died at least the father, Mary and George headed for Australia. Isabella stayed behind and married, and she is still there in 1901. The only child unaccounted for now is Elizabeth.

Regards,
Sarah

[Waverley]

Hi Alan
Thanks for all the information you have supplied to me and it will keep me busy checking on George's father who was from Ayrshire. This is one area where the Guthries came from on my fathers tree and my mothers tree I also have Guthries, so far I have not been able to tie up either trees with each other.
My thanks go to all the people at TalkingScot who have provided information I would love to have the skills that you people seem to be able to provide so quickly.
Sincere regards to you all
Jim

[SarahND]

Hi Jim,
Let us know how you get on! If you can find Adam Guthrie's death in Australia it may give you his parents' names. When I was searching the censuses I noticed that there were a number of Adam Guthries in Ayr confusing things, so the parents' names would be a big help.

All the best,
Sarah