Help..need info on Glendenning family

[babygreenhill]

Hi everyone...I am relatively new to genealogy and have traced pretty far back on many sides but ran across a problem with info that I received from someone else. I am looking for a David Glendenning who had a daughter named Mary. He is related to an Alexander Glendoning born 1536 in Parton, Kincardinshire, Scotland....any info on this group of individuals would be much appreciated.

[SarahND]

Hi babygreenhill and Welcome to

It would help if you could give us some more information on these people and tell us what, exactly, you are looking for.
When and where did David Glendenning live and when was Mary born? Do you know Mary's mother's name?
If you tell us everything you know about them, it will be easier for us to help without duplicating information you already have.

All the best,
Sarah

[paddyscar]

Welcome to TalkingScot!

To add to Sarah's questions, if you let us know where you have already looked, that too, will avoid duplication of effort.

Frances

[babygreenhill]

Okay...let's see.

I have David George Glendenning born about 1660 married to Margaret Hall....they had a child named Mary Glendenning born in 1698 married to a Phillip Hoggatt.

All of the Glendenning's were born in Midlothian, Scotland..I think Parton.

Someone lists Alexander Gledoning as David's father...born in 1590 or 1536..(big difference) and while I know ages were a lot more spread it seems strange that Alex would be around 70 when david george was born. Plus I can't find his name anywhere else. Someone suggested that he may have a different name but right now I am completely lost and would love to bridge the gap between 1660 and 150....

After Alex I have back through about 1000...but am missing a big space and I want to make sure I am in the right section. And it makes it very confusing that every generation has the same names.

Any help would be great. Thanks.

[babygreenhill]

sorry...glendoning, glendinning, and glendowyn are some of the alternate spellings that I have and I have looked on ancestry.com, yahoo, wikipedia, and familysearch.og...although I am new so maybe I just didn't find it.

Thanks for any help.

[Currie]

Hello Babygreenhill,

Unfortunately, researching 16th and 17th Century ancestors, for 99% of people, is usually a risky business, full of fantasy, assumption, wishful thinking, and other peoples invention. You’ll find much of the aforementioned in the IGI, that’s unless it’s information extracted from official sources. Of course there will be a lot of submitted information there that has been properly researched and is absolutely correct, but there’s no way you’ll be able to distinguish the good from the bad. I don’t know the status of the information you got from the IGI (familysearch) as the site is unavailable at the moment.

Unless there is something special about the family such that their history has been progressively recorded you would have to rely on official records. Before Statutory registration of Birth Deaths and Marriages was introduced in Scotland in 1855 such events were recorded by the Church and they are generally known as Old Parish Registers (OPRs). See this page for information about them and their completeness http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/re ... -oprs.html also here http://books.google.com.au/books?id=E01 ... 22&f=false Midlothian (or Edinburghshire), is probably more complete than most.

Another official source is Wills. If you go to ScotlandsPeople http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.aspx and do a free search of the Wills before 1800 just using glend* for the surname you’ll find a number of early Midlothian wills for various spellings of the name. Some of them may be for the people you mentioned. The contents of these Wills may provide clues. Original scans of the OPRs are also available on the site and may or may not provide additional information to what is in an extracted record in the IGI.

I’ve been plugging away at my genealogy for 25 years and haven’t found anyone who existed in the 17th Century and to tell you the truth the prospect of adding just a name doesn’t inspire me at all. There is usually much more of interest to be found by going sideways into the families of different grades of Uncles and Aunts than there is to become too wrapped up in trying to find just another name to add to the very end of one of the many tree roots. Other people may have different views on the matter.

All the best,
Alan

[babygreenhill]

Thanks for some info. I found some of the parish records on ancestry and family search. I found the marriage records for margaret and david and birth record for Mary Glendenning. I guess she was kidnapped by pirates before being released here or something. Very interesting. I will keep looking. I also found an apprentice record but am unsure how to read all of the info. I am guessing the (s.) means son but do not know what the (p.) means....any thoughts?

[Montrose Budie]

Thanks for some info. I found some of the parish records on ancestry and family search. I found the marriage records for margaret and david and birth record for Mary Glendenning. I guess she was kidnapped by pirates before being released here or something. Very interesting. I will keep looking. I also found an apprentice record but am unsure how to read all of the info. I am guessing the (s.) means son but do not know what the (p.) means....any thoughts?

I'd need to see the full context to comment on the meaning of (s.) and (p.).

mb

[babygreenhill]

I found it in an apprentice log.

Still can't find any record of birth for david but am thinking that his father's name was george based on the above.

Glendinning, David, s. to George G., residenter in Glasgow, p. to John Glendoning, elder, wright 23 Feb 1681
Book: Volume 5. The Register of Marriages. (Marriage)
Collection: Midlothian: Edinburgh - Register of Apprentices, 1666-1700

I am thinking that this is the right David..since David lists his middle name as George.

Would love to find a birth record or something though.

[Montrose Budie]

I found it in an apprentice log.

Still can't find any record of birth for david but am thinking that his father's name was george based on the above.

Glendinning, David, s. to George G., residenter in Glasgow, p. to John Glendoning, elder, wright 23 Feb 1681
Book: Volume 5. The Register of Marriages. (Marriage)
Collection: Midlothian: Edinburgh - Register of Apprentices, 1666-1700

I am thinking that this is the right David..since David lists his middle name as George.

Would love to find a birth record or something though.

" s. " near certain to be "son", but I'm dithering over " p. " The obvious meaning is "parent", but how does "John Glendoning, elder" fit in with what else you know?, and does it refer to George G. or David?? How do possible relationships fit in with other things you know?

Worth a look at other apprentice records in the same log to see how they can help with the interpretation of the GLENDINNING record.

mb