margerate munn whyte

[gumpy]

i am looking for the above lady, birthplace inchinnan 1882 .Had a brother james born 1882 who may have died in the war
Margerates mother's maiden name was crawford

margerate Died in canada 1960. married to william millar ..
all help is appreciated

[LesleyB]

Hi Gumpy

Can you tell us where you have looked already? Can you tell us where you found the info about her marriage and birth, please? The more you can fill out the info you have given, the easier it is for us to help you.

Have you found her birth on ScotlandsPeople? What about the census - have you manged to find her in any census? 1891 would likely be a good one to try as she should be at home with parents. The dates you have given suggest both she and her brother James were twins...do you know this to be the case? Do you know if Margaret married in Scotland?

Is it any particular information are you looking for?

Best wishes
Lesley

[SarahND]

Hello gumpy,
After searching vainly for a Margaret Whyte, I see that she was actually Margaret Munn

1891
Nethercraigs, Paisley Abbey, Renfrewshire
Margaret C Munn, 37, Head, born Lochwinnoch, Renfrewshire, Annuitant
James Munn, 11, Son, born Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scholar
Margaret Munn, 8, Daur, born Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scholar

So, if this is the correct family, then she and James were not twins, as your post would indicate.

Look forward to hearing your answers to Lesley's questions, so we can try to take this further.

All the best,
Sarah

P.S. Appears the father was John.

1881
Nether Southbar, Inchinnan, Renfrewshire
John Munn, 27, Head born Mearns, Renfrewshire, Ag Lab
Margaret Munn, 27, Wife, born Abbey, Renfrewshire
James Munn, 1, Son, born Inchinnan, Renfrewshire

[Montrose Budie]

And John MUNN married Margaret Faulds CRAWFORD in the neighbouring parish of Kilbarchan in 1879 !

Margaret died in 1898, having remarried John KILLIN. The WHITE surname derives from Margaret's mother's side. John MUNN died in 1896.

mb

[Currie]

Maybe this will be useful later.

Glasgow Herald, Wednesday, January 28, 1885
DEATHS.
MUNN.—At Pike Lake, Minto, Ontario, Canada, on the 28th December, 1884, in the 41st year of her age, Elizabeth Robertson Watson, beloved wife of Thomas Munn, late of Nether Southbar, Inchinnan, Renfrewshire. Deceased was a native of Carmunnock, Lanarkshire, and emigrated to Canada along with her husband in 1866.

If that’s relevant maybe this is as well.
http://www.ourfamilygenealogies.com/FamilyTree/1912.htm

Alan

[Jessica Munn]

Thomas Munn and Elizabeth Robertson Watson are my great great grandparents. Where did you come across this obituary and do you have more information about this family? This is the first time we have found anything meaningful about them and we are very excited. If anyone knows anything more please help us.

[Currie]

Hello Jessica, and Welcome to TalkingScot.

I wish all immigrants to North America had left a newspaper trail like that one.

The obit was in the Glasgow Herald, and that usually means that there were relatives or friends in the area someone wanted to know about the death.

The Glasgow Herald is free online at Google News Archive as well as at pay sites elsewhere. The notice is in first column of first page, zoom in and drag to the spot. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=G ... page&hl=en

You’ll find what looks like their marriage on the IGI.

THOMAS MUNN
Spouse: ELISABETH R. WATSON
Marriage: 02 JUN 1865, Inchinnan, Renfrew, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

A copy of the original marriage record is available online from ScotlandsPeople and will contain much more information, including parent’s names. Census returns back to 1841 are also available.

Plenty of people here will be very eager to help with your research so all questions are most welcome.

Was Thomas a bit of a poet by any chance?

All the best,
Alan

[Jessica Munn]

the info seems to be flowing in now. Thomas was a poet, you can find some of his poems online as excerpts from a book titled "The Way it Was: A History of Minto Township", by Clifford Harrison.

http://www.ourroots.ca/searchResults.as ... be61732060

Thomas Munn was the second son of James and Mary (nee Campbell Crawford) Munn. They occupied the Burnstone farm in Mearns, Renfrewshire. For a time, James' brother John was on the farm as well. John (b. 1826 Mearns) was married (unknown) and had a son John Jr. He married Margaret Crawford, mentioned earlier in this thread, and their children were James and Margaret (Whyte).

James and Mary Munn had 4 children at the time of the 1851 census. William, Thomas, Katherine and James. Also living on the Burnstone farm at that time, were brother John (see above) and father William (b. 1779 Mearns). William lived to old age and is the man we are researching now.

Thanks again.

[Currie]

Hello Jessica,

He was quite a poet, it’s much better to have a poet in the family than a Duke or a Duchess or suchlike.

The one that I saw was in “Engineering News-Record”, 1881. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=A8l ... edir_esc=y

He sent it to the County Council as a petition to have a bridge built over Pike Lake. The page image is too small for me to read but I’ve copied the text hereunder. I haven’t tried to correct the OCR errors, some are pretty obvious but other ones I’m not sure whether they’re errors or Scots.

All the best,
Alan

BRIDGES.
A double-tracked railway bridge is to be built over White River, at Indianapolis, Intl., within the next sixty days.

Mr. T. Munn, of Minto, Ont., wants a bridge over Pike Lake for his own especial benefit, and he has petitioned the County Council of Wellington for the bridge. The following is his petition:

To the Warden and Council of the County of Wellington:

liENTIJMKN—

A ploughman chiel tak'sup bis pen t«e wish ye weel.
Lang may you toddle out an1 in:
Keep free frae municipal sin.
Kou' be your barns, and may your stots
Haerouth o' turnips, hay and oats;
Your bits o' bairns, gin such ye hae,
Be free frae trouble nicht an day.

An' ye wha dinna need to toil.
And force your livin' frae the soil.
May Irade an' profits yield per cent..
Tae keep you cosie an" content.
And gin a doctor or a scribe.
You hae amangyour worthy tribe:
1 dinna grudge them fairish health;
But hope that ne'er get muckle wealth.
I always think whan they dae wul).
There's many ithers scant o' meat.
Bad physic and uncertain law.
Will quickly drive us tae the wa'.

Your servant, I. a favour want.
Which ye hap in your power to grant.
About the will I dinnae ken.
But tak' ye a' for gentlemen.
Wha' justice gi'e to yln and a'
Be't close at name or far awa,
In some outlandish corner, where
The roads hae aye been scant o' care.

'Tis for a place like that last named.
That for its pike has aye been famed.
I ask your help to build a brig,
Or ony icber kind o! rig.
To run me o' the twa mile roou,
When I gang tae Mount Forest toon.
Sae read ray ryttame, then freely give.
I'll pray for you as laug's I live.

I am. gentleiren.
Your weel wisher,
Minto, Jan. 27,1881.
T. Munn.