John Darroch Dallas Fulton

[buny73]

Hi , I am lookig for info on my great grandfather John Darroch Dallas Fulton. He married Annie McMenemy and had about 15 children. The children of John and Annie are: David, Dinah, Frances, Frank, Minnie, Marion, Margaret, Annie, Mary, Georgina, John, Neil, Catherine, Benjamin. There may also have beeen a George. I believe they were all born in Scotland. I can't seem to find them on any census.

Also, I am really interested in is finding out about their son John Mowat Fulton(my grandfather). I heard my father say a long time ago that my grandfather could never go back to Scotland. I asked my father about it before he died and he denied saying it. When I first started my genealogy research my father told me all kinds of different names for my grandfather's middle name (not rembering that my grandmother told me years ago that my grandfather's middle name was Mowat). Knowing my father I know that this was deliberate. My grandfather(John Mowat Fulton) used his brother's name on my fahter's birth certificate, which was corrected 6 years after my father's birth. John Mowat also used his brother Ben's name on his Social Securtiy application. The only document i have foud where John Mowat used his own name was on his marriage certificate to my grandmother. I would like to know why he could never return to Scotland but have no idea how to find out. I can only think of 2 reasons why he couldn't go home. one is because he is running from the military(maybe he got drafted and didn't want to serve so he ran), the other is that maybe he was in trouble with the law. Does anyone know where I can find out?

Nicole

[speleobat2]

Hi Nicole,

This looks like them in 1901:

1901 Scotland Census 1901 Scotland Census
Name: John Fulton
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Annie Fulton
Gender: Male
Where born: Patrick, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 646A/2
Registration district: Plantation Landward
Civil parish: Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 96 Mclellan St
Occupation: Stoker (in Dredger)
ED: 40
Household schedule number: 109
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1901_326
Household Members: Name Age
John Fulton 30
Annie Fulton 30
Marion Fulton 11
Margaret Fulton 10
Annie Fulton 8
Mary Fulton 6
Georgina Fulton 4
John Fulton 2
Neil Fulton 2mo




Do you have Ancestry.com? There is also a family tree posted there by someone related through Georgina Fulton.

Carol

[SarahND]

Hello Nicole and welcome to Talking Scot!

You don't give any dates to help us narrow down the search for these people, but this looks like the right names in the 1901 census:

1901
96 Mclellan St, Govan, Lanarkshire
John Fulton, 30, Head, born Patrick, Lanarkshire (Partick?), Stoker (in Dredger)
Annie Fulton, 30, Wife, born Tignabrwick, Argyleshire
Marion Fulton, 11, Daur, born Paisley, Renfrewshire, scholar
Margaret Fulton, 10, Daur, born Paisley, Renfrewshire, scholar
Annie Fulton, 8, Daur, born Glasgow, Lanarkshire, scholar
Mary Fulton, 6, Daur, born Glasgow, Lanarkshire, scholar
Georgina Fulton, 4, Daur, born Glasgow, Lanarkshire
John Fulton, 2, Son, born Govan, Lanarkshire
Neil Fulton, 2mo, Son, born Govan, Lanarkshire

Is that about the correct date of birth for your grandfather John?

All the best,
Sarah

Snap, Carol!

[speleobat2]

Hi Nicole and Sarah,

There is also this marriage on SP:

1920 FULTON JOHN MOWAT MCMANUS HELEN PLANTATION GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/20

I notice on Nicole's tree on Ancestry that she has him married to Lillian Gannon I think it was in the USA.

Nicole, did you know about this marriage to Helen McManus?

Carol

[SarahND]

Hi Carol,
Helen Fulton, other surname Mcmanus died in 1930. When was the U.S. marriage?

Regards,
Sarah

[speleobat2]

Sarah,

There's no date of marriage given in the tree for Lillian Gannon and John Mowat Fulton.

We'll have to wait until we hear from Nicole again.

Carol

[speleobat2]

Hi all,

There are at least two children who look to be born to these people, but I won't list them because of the cut off dates. If you search SP just with the last name and the dates 1920 to 1930 in Govan, Lanarkshire they will come up. One has both Mowat and McManus as middle names.

Sarah, I couldn't get the death you found to come up. Where did she die?

Carol

[SarahND]

Hi Carol,
She died in Hillhead, Glasgow City, age 29

I just put:
Surname: fulton
Forename: helen
Other Surnames: mcmanus

and there it was.


Sarah

[speleobat2]

Got it. Don't know what was amiss the first time. Her sister was the informant.

I just noticed that there is a second identical post under Scottish People for Nicole's introductory post. Maybe you or someone else can correct that since all the follow up is here under Ireland?

Carol

[SarahND]

Thanks for the heads-up, Carol. I'm wondering why this topic is in Ireland anyway... makes more sense in the other forum. Hold on, while I try to move this

Cheers,
Sarah

P.S. It worked