McGarry

[garydevine1995]

i was just wondering if someone could possibly help me find some siblings for amichael mcgarry, his birth year is unknownbut he died in 178 in hamilton,lanark. his father was also michael and his mother elizabeth cochrane, surname may vary. Michael came over from ireland before 1849 cause he was married to bridget devine in 1848 in Ayreshire. i am just hoping that there is a couple of siblings that came over with him and possibley moved to ayrshire and then moved to hamilton or they ended up staying in ayrshire.

[Currie]

Hello Gary,

You’re looking for siblings of someone born in Ireland in the 1820s or whenever, and who came to Scotland. It won’t be easy finding Irish records for them. Maybe they could be on the 1841 Scottish census if they had arrived by then and were still together as a family. You’re much more likely to stumble across such siblings by accident than by actually trying to find them. If you had buckets of money to throw around you could probably go at it hammer and tongs.

I’ve never spent any time or money looking for Irish ancestors in Ireland from that era. I just wait till they appear out of the gloom.

The IGI can sometimes be useful but you need to distinguish between official extracted records and those submitted by researchers. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... _form=true

You could try the 1841 Scottish census at Freecen, most of it is there. http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

Or have a Google, someone else may have already impoverished themselves looking for the same people, or been asking around. Maybe they know something. Here’s some, including yourself. One is from 1999, you would think that if there was anything to be found they would have it by now, but maybe not. http://www.google.com.au/search?sclient ... tnG=Search

All the best,
Alan

[garydevine1995]

the family search IGI is useless because it says it gives you the british cenus from 1881 when really it only gives your the english one and the man i am looking for died bfore 1881 and i cant find him on it. freecen has not got any michael mcgarrys up untill 1861 which none are mine because they are all down in england and the google page you gave me, that is a relation but i have no idea who he/she is because they havent been on in a long time. it would be a miracle if they came on, but it loks like they have gotten far.

[Tracey]

the family search IGI is useless because it says it gives you the british cenus from 1881 when really it only gives your the english one and the man i am looking for died bfore 1881 and i cant find him on it.

For those who are still confused about Family Search, the IGI and how to use it - The IGI and the Census on Family Search are two seperate things and far from useless !. (agreed they do need to sort out the *British* title on the 1881 census).

freecen has not got any michael mcgarrys up untill 1861

Freecen does have one Michael McGarry on the 1841 census aged 20 born in Ireland.
1851 has a Mick McGarry aged 28 born in Co.Sligo.

Have you dicounted these ?

[nelmit]

FREECEN 1851 - look for Bridget McGeary age 2 and you'll find them. (I know it gives the mother's name as Ann but it's definitely them). Unfortunately his birthplace is mistranscribed but Ancestry has it right for a change.

Have you looked at the 1861 at SP or Ancestry? Michael has a lady living with him who married a John McGarry in 1855. A look at this marriage will show if John was a brother of Michael and also where he came from in Ireland.

You are very lucky because Michael and Bridget had a son in 1855 (found at the IGI)- again a look at this birth entry will tell you where in Ireland Michael was born.

If the IGI goes offline at any time I feel as though my right arm's been cut off - it is an amazing free resource for anybody researching their family history.

Have a read at Andrew's advice on how to get more from it. viewtopic.php?f=39&t=10332

Regards,
Annette

[garydevine1995]

awwww yes thats them for definate Anette, John Divine is my great great great great uncle lol he married Sarah Skelton but he died like a year later. on scotlands people if i look up the mcgarry family with the john devine in it for 1851, my family are right underneath them on the same page. james devine and rose muldoon, so they lived next door to each other or in the same house. i did manage to find the michael mcgarry in 1855 but it didnt give info on his dad michael or his mum bridget devines births places, where abouts should it tell you. the mick isnt him because he was with his wife in 51 as annette has showed and the 41 michael isnt him either as he is married to a catherine and has a son called john. i have got the 61 census for the family but i cant make out the names because of the writing, i dont no if the family continue onto a differnt page, but if it does then on one page i have 10 people all are mcgarrys and there is one person that is a relation aged 26 but i cant make that name out either, and a dont no how many are on the other page it is is continued

[garydevine1995]

i guess i'll just leave it then lol

[nelmit]

Hi Gary,

I haven't seen the original but here is the household in 1861 as transcribed at Ancestry -

Michael Mccarry 45
Bridget Devine 36
Bridget Mcgarry 12
Roser Mcgarry 10
Mary Mcgarry 8
Miche Mcgarry 6
Margt Mcgarry 4
Cathrine Mcgarry 1
Amclia Stamers 26
Thomas Mcgarry 4
John Mcgarry 1

Here is the marriage I mentioned earlier -

JOHN MCGARRY

Marriages:
Spouse: AMELIA STOAMER Family
Marriage:
24 NOV 1855 Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland

If you do a parent search at the IGI (just put Amelia with no surname in the mother's name box) you will find the births of Thomas and John confirm this is the same Amelia in 1861.

Are you sure it doesn't give Michael and Bridget's place of birth on the 1855 birth record because it should underneath their names!

Regards,
Annette

[garydevine1995]

yeah thats the family i have but the john at 1 is on the other page. i looked IGI and the two children have the same mother but different second names for thomas its stoniers and for john its slammers and on the census you wrote out it is stamers and forthe marriage it is stoamer so it looks like a mix of the four names so it is her, and this is all it says for the michael mcgarry, no place of birth for the dad michael or bridget


MICHAEL MCGARRY Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 21 MAR 1855 Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: MICHAEL MCGARRY Family
Mother: BRIDGET DIVINE


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C116471 1855 - 1875 6035516 REGISTER Film NONE

[LesleyB]

and this is all it says for the michael mcgarry, no place of birth for the dad michael or bridget

To see the place of birth you need to go to Scotlands People and download a digital copy of the original 1855 birth entry.

Best wishes
Lesley