Isaac G. Robinson (1814-1893)- Photo Resemblance Question

Looking for Scottish Ancestors

Moderator: Global Moderators

Robinson1857
Posts: 11
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:25 pm
Location: Upstate New York, USA

Isaac G. Robinson (1814-1893)- Photo Resemblance Question

Post by Robinson1857 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:39 pm

Okay. I know this is a silly question :wink: , but please humor me. By looking at the photo of my 3rd great-grandfather (below), could you take a guess as to where my Robinsons may have emigrated from? I suppose I am wondering if he looks Scottish. DNA and records point to Scotland, but nothing concrete has turned up.Image
Scottish Surnames: ROBINSON, LITTLE, CHRISTIE
My Robinson Genealogy https://sites.google.com/site/robinson1857/

SarahND
Site Admin
Posts: 5647
Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:47 am
Location: France

Re: Isaac G. Robinson (1814-1893)- Photo Resemblance Questio

Post by SarahND » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:17 pm

In 1880 he says that he and his parents were all born in New York… so you have a least a couple of generations where other nationalities could creep in, assuming that one could actually tell a Scot from his ears :lol:

According to the Findagrave entry (which one hopes has been researched properly) his mother Susan Greenman’s family appears to go back to early Rhode Island and who knows where before that… so he is probably a mix of early New England Puritan DNA, like my father’s family. In fact, lowering the threshold on GEDmatch, you and I have 78cM in segments over 3cM in common… although only 1 is over 5cM. All that early New England “noise” could have done anything to the facial features of old Isaac, and probably did :D He does bear an uncanny resemblance to my gg grandfather Hervey Leonard, but it is probably the fashion in beards and clothing!

I assume you have scoured the Fulton historical newspaper site for clues?

Best wishes,
Sarah

Robinson1857
Posts: 11
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:25 pm
Location: Upstate New York, USA

Re: Isaac G. Robinson (1814-1893)- Photo Resemblance Questio

Post by Robinson1857 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:18 pm

I don't put much stock in the reporting of my Robinson ancestors. According to them, Isaac was born in New York, Vermont, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Woodstock, NY, Dutchess County, NY, and Scotland. There is probably a grain of truth in each, but I am not locking in on any of them. :wink:

My Find-A-Grave entry is flawless! :D I have been very meticulous with my Robinson line. The New England lot (Greenman, Gardner, Clarke, etc.), however, is a bit sketchy with all of the horribly conflicting genealogies out there.

My father's Y-DNA results seem to point to Scotland, so I am starting to nose around there. If the Rensselaer Glass Factory legend is true, Scotland is a likely origin for Daniel. The superintendent of that factory apparently went to Dumbarton to recruit glass blowers in 1806. They were smuggled back to America since it was a penal offense to break a glass blowers contract back then. That may also explain the lack of evidence for Daniel's presence prior to the 1810 US Federal Census.

The Fulton History site has been an invaluable resource that I have picked clean. :D

Thanks for the feedback, Sarah!
SarahND wrote:In 1880 he says that he and his parents were all born in New York… so you have a least a couple of generations where other nationalities could creep in, assuming that one could actually tell a Scot from his ears :lol:

According to the Findagrave entry (which one hopes has been researched properly) his mother Susan Greenman’s family appears to go back to early Rhode Island and who knows where before that… so he is probably a mix of early New England Puritan DNA, like my father’s family. In fact, lowering the threshold on GEDmatch, you and I have 78cM in segments over 3cM in common… although only 1 is over 5cM. All that early New England “noise” could have done anything to the facial features of old Isaac, and probably did :D He does bear an uncanny resemblance to my gg grandfather Hervey Leonard, but it is probably the fashion in beards and clothing!

I assume you have scoured the Fulton historical newspaper site for clues?

Best wishes,
Sarah
Scottish Surnames: ROBINSON, LITTLE, CHRISTIE
My Robinson Genealogy https://sites.google.com/site/robinson1857/

SarahND
Site Admin
Posts: 5647
Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:47 am
Location: France

Re: Isaac G. Robinson (1814-1893)- Photo Resemblance Questio

Post by SarahND » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:27 pm

Aha! So it's your very own Findagrave memorial? Well then, I guess we can believe it!
It sounds like you have a fascinating puzzle to work out-- never a dull moment in genealogy!

[cheers]

Sarah