any more children?.....

[maceill]

peter boyle widower,, married mary beggen ,widow 26 december 1882
st alphonses chapel glasgow,peter had four children with his first wife,bridget curran,is there a way i can find out if he had any children ,with
mary beggen,
thanks
maceill
researching
boyles currans/donegal/glasgow/new monkland.

[CatrionaL]

Hullo Maceill

The Census can be a very useful source of information about children born to a couple.. Have you tried to find Peter Boyle and Mary in the 1891 and 1901 Census at
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk ?

All the best for your research.
Catriona

[Andy]

Ina should have all of this lot. If she doesn't pick up on the thread I'll see what I have.

[maceill]

thanks for your replies
i picked peter and mary up on the 1901 census, no sign of any children
on peters death certificate, mary was the informant, still looking for marys death certificate,one more thing,
also found the place in ireland[after a three year search]were peters first wife bridget curran came from, ballymore teelin donegal,visited the place in august, so never give up, my next quest is to find peters birth place
once again thanks
maceill

[Davie]

Greetin's Maceill,
I have quite a few records of Currans on file.
My Aunt Cathy was born in the Saracen Head building on the Gallowgate,
very posh in the twenties.
The Family originally came from Ireland but some of them were in Linlithgow before moving to the Calton.
I see that Peter and Bridget married in Glasgow,
and Margaret was born here and Mary in Carrick.
Were Bridget's siblings: James, Mary, and Patrick all born in Carrick.
As Peter and Mary Biggan were married in the Calton, I assume the priest was either Michael McGinn or Father Godfrey.
http://www.alphonsus.fsbusiness.co.uk/home.htm

The McGinn family are legend in the East end
Here is a wee extract from Matt McGinn's book

We had a picture of Canon O´Reilly in the house. It hung beside the mantlepiece, commanding as proud a place as that of the Blessed Virgin, of Christ bleeding on the Cross or even that of the Celtic Team in full colours which graces an ornamental plate beside the set-in bed.

Canon O´Reilly, although before my time, was a legend in the Gallowgate. A legend of a walking stick and a canon´s hat bursting upon the youths and young men in the area and bashing them physically in an unholy effort tto break up coin tosing and card schools and games of football which were favourite pastimes.

He would lash out regardless of the religion of his victims, safe in the knowledge that most of them had been baptised Catholics. He was fortified in the wisdom that no one would hit him back if only because there where stories credited as true by the local Catholics that such and such a man had a bad leg simply because he had tried to kick a priest., the crippled limb being an immediately inflicted Act of God! One poor man´s arm was permanently stationed parallel with his shoulder because the Lord (so it be said) had not been at all pleased by his attempt to take a punch at one of the clergy.

These Acts of God were speculative, but there was no speculation regarding the violent sorties of Canon O´Reilly into the closes and backcourts of Ross Street, Kent Street, Bain Street, the Gallowgate and Well Street.


Nothing like a wee bit o trivia tae keep us gaun
Davie

[maceill]

thanks,for the reply davie,i have been searching, for peter,and bridgets,siblings for ages,i obtained [ what i hope ] is bridget currans mothers death certificate,she died in malinmore[next place to ballymore]in 1880,a patrick curran was present at death, as she was a widow ,i presume this was her son, her maiden name was warren
peter and his first wife bridget ,lived in middleton place glasgow,then struthers street,peter and mary lived in high street when they married. do these currans ring a bell
many thanks
maceill

[Davie]

Hi again Maceill,
I had a wee look at the Currans.
I don't recognise your Bridget connected to my Aunt's side.
No one is sure exactly where they came from in Ireland, but the family visited Kilcar (lots of Curran's there) in the south west coast of Donegal.

I notice you say Warren as the mother's maiden name,
There is a Patrick Curran born in Carrick c. 1856,
Father Patrick mother Bridget Barron. it is on the IGI and they may have misprinted it.
Will have a look on the computer at home this week-end to see if there is anything else.
Davie

[maceill]

thanks davie
had a look at my currans, as names seem to be handed down from generation, to generation ,the first child of bridget &peter,was called margaret[peters mother was margaret]mary could have been called after her sister,william james after peters father,james after her brother [ if james mary and patrick,are her siblings,in my own family, my brother and threecousins all william james,four margarets,confusing?
could you please tell me if the michell library has a list of who is buried in dalbeth cemetery,peter boyle is buried there i have the lair number,i am making a short visit to glasgow this week,and thought i would try and find out who else is in the lair , might get some clues
many thanks
maceill

[Davie]

Hi
They are very helpful at Dalbeth itself
If you have any Info on the Family
They will take you to the lair.
I have been there on a few occasions and it has always rained.
If you get in touch below, they should be able to help
http://www.rcag.org.uk/

Enjoy yer trip up tae The Second City.
Awrabest
Davie

[DavidWW]

peter boyle widower,, married mary beggen ,widow 26 december 1882
st alphonses chapel glasgow,peter had four children with his first wife,bridget curran,is there a way i can find out if he had any children ,with
mary beggen,
thanks
maceill
researching
boyles currans/donegal/glasgow/new monkland.

maceill

On www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk look for a 49 year old Peter BOYLE in the 1891 census to see those in the household.

David