LOOKING FOR THOMAS BIRTH.....

katie6515 · Post by **katie6515** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:41 pm

CAN ANYONE HELP, I AM LOOKING FOR THOMAS COCKBURN BIRTH CERT, HE MARRIED IN 1820 TO ELSPETH KAY IN RATHO MIDLOTHIAN HE HAD 5 KIDS BORN IN RATHO, SCOONIE FIFE, LARGO FIFE AND NEWBURN FIFE THANKS AGAIN

Caroline · Post by **Caroline** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:23 pm

Do you happen to have the names of Thomas parents or where he was born about Katie?

Caroline

JimM · Post by **JimM** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:37 pm

Hello Katie
You probably know that there will not be a birth certificate as such, only a record of his birth or baptism in the OPR's (Old Parish Register).

Have you found Thomas on any census?
The 1851 census should tell you what district he was born in and also his age (but not always reliable), this should help narrow the search for his birth on IGI.

If he died after 1855 you should be able to search for his death certificate on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Jim

katie6515 · Post by **katie6515** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:19 am

SORRY THATS ALL I HAVE ON THOMAS SO I CANT GET ANY FURTHER , THE ONLY WAY THAT I KNOW THAT I AM LOOKING FOR A THOMAS COCKBURN AND ELSPETH KAY IS THAT THEIR NAMES WERE ON ALEXANDER DEATH CERT WHO IS THEIR SON BORN 1821, DIED 1890, FOUND THEM ON HUGH WALLIS SITE. THANKS AGAIN

JimM · Post by **JimM** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:36 am

Hello Katie
Thomas Cockburn and Elspeth Kay had a daughter Margaret born in Scoonie 31/7/1841.
First check the 1841 census for that area (hopefully this is not one of the missing Fife districts).
You wont find out much from the 1841 but you should find out Thomas's occupation and where the family were living.
the 1851 census will give you more details if they are still living in the same area (age and birth district).

Seeing that Thomas and Elspeth married in 1820 and had their last child Margaret born in 1841, I would think that they were born c1800.
You will find an Elspeth Cockburn aged 61 on the 1861 census in Largo Fife http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

There is also a death record for an Elspeth Cockburn (but not Kay) died in Largo Fife in 1866 age 66

It may be worth spending some credits to check these out?

good luck

Jim

Caroline · Post by **Caroline** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:44 pm

JimM wrote: Thomas Cockburn and Elspeth Kay had a daughter Margaret born in Scoonie 31/7/1841.
First check the 1841 census for that area (hopefully this is not one of the missing Fife districts).

Jim

Hi Katie,

The 1841 census for Scoonie is actually online so if you go to http://member.melbpc.org.au/~andes/scoonie6.html you'll find Thomas and his family on page 12.

Caroline

Caroline · Post by **Caroline** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:28 pm

Hi again Katie,

Just noticed that the 1851 census for Scoonie is also online if you want to check if they are still there.

The link is http://members.aol.com/genscot1/Page23.html

Caroline

katie6515 · Post by **katie6515** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:55 pm

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP CAROLINE, FROM THE 1841 CENSUS I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THEY HAD 2 SONS THAT I DIDNT KNOW ABOUT JAMES AND JOSEPH, BUT THEIR DAUGHTER JANE WAS MISSING FROM THE CENSUS SHE WAS BORN IN 1825. THEY WERE NOT ON THE 1851 CENSUS. THANKS AGAIN