Cordelia Innes.....

[Jack]

Hi Lisa,
Thought a separate post might be best - saves confusion! You mentioned,

"...haven't looked at Cordelia Jr much as I'm leaning towards her maybe having died young..."

I may have got this wrong, but was it Cordelia INNES (b1838) you thought could've died young?
Her elder sis Janet INNES (b1834/1836) might have - she isn't with her parents in 1851.
I'd be most surprised if this isn't your Cordelia marrying Archibald LAMONT in Greenock 1865.

Here's the family in 1841 & 1851 (no census details as yet). [now added]
There's also a Daniel in 1851, but won't know if he's as a son till the original census page is looked at. [he is]
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1841 cens 564 Ed 2 p 9 (Greenock - South)
West Burn Street
Willm. INNES, 30, shoemaker j/man, b SCT
Cordelia INNES, 30, ------------ b SCT
Janet INNES, 6, ------------- b RFW
Agness INNES, 4, --------- b RFW
Cordelia INNES, 2, -------- b RFW
Willm. INNES, 6mos, ----- b RFW
&
1851 cens 564-3 (442) Ed 101 p 12 (Greenock - West)
20 Ann Street.
William INNES, head, marr, 40, shoemaker, b Campbeltown, ARL
Cordelia INNES, wife, marr, 39, -------------- b Campbeltown, ARL
Agnes INNES, daur, 14, ----------------- b Greenock, RFW
Cordelia INNES, daur, 12, scholar, b Greenock, RFW
William INNES, son, 10, ----------- b Greenock, RFW
Neil INNES, son, 8, --------------- b Greenock, RFW
Catherine INNES, daur, 6, --- b Greenock, RFW
Daniel INNES, 1, son, ------- b Greenock, RFW
==
ARCHD. LAMONT
CORDELIA INNES
Marriage: 07 MAR 1865 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

MARY LAMONT - Birth: 21 AUG 1866 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
AGNES LAMONT - Birth: 27 AUG 1868 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
CORDELIA LAMONT - Birth: 15 JUL 1871 Middle-East-West Parishes, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
ARCHIBALD LAMONT - Birth: 11 JUN 1874 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

1881 Census Place: East Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Dwelling: 10 Belville St
Source: FHL Film 0203571 GRO Ref Volume 564-2 EnumDist 17 Page 2
Archd LAMONT M 44 M Kilfinan, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Engine Fitter
Cordelia LAMONT M 42 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Wife
Agnes LAMONT U 12 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Cordelia LAMONT U 8 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Archd LAMONT 6 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
Mary LAMONT 2 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Daur
==
Jack
Last edited to include the address in 1851.

[AndrewP]

The IGI entries found by a parent search are:

JANET INNES - Birth: 10 OCT 1834 Greenock Par, , Renfrew
JANET INNES - Christening: 05 NOV 1834 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew
AGNES INNES - Birth: 20 MAR 1836 Greenock Par, , Renfrew
AGNES INNES - Birth: 04 APR 1836 Greenock, Renfrew
AGNES INNES - Christening: 10 APR 1836 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew
AGNES INNES - Christening: 24 JUN 1836 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew
JANET INNES - Christening: 05 NOV 1836 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew
CORDELIA INNES - Christening: 31 AUG 1838 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew
WILLIAM INNES - Christening: 29 AUG 1840 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew
NEIL INNES - Christening: 07 OCT 1842 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew
MALCOLM BUCHANAN INNES - Christening: 29 DEC 1844 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew
CATHERINE INNES - Christening: 10 JAN 1846 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

[Lahb]

Hi Jack, I posted a thanks on the other message for transfering it since I seemed to have taken over that one Not my intention.

Thank you for the 1841/51 details!!! May I ask where you were able to get them? I've tried the few sources I've found on line (freecen etc...but they all have only limited amounts of % transcribed) and as I mentioned to Andrew, was waiting for SP to have them up and going since I seemed to be having no luck.

Re my comment on Cordelia Jr - I was actually typing without my notes in front of me and should have put Janet's name not hers
So many Cordelia's of late it's starting to boggle my mind! Thank you for your effort on her though - I will check to see what I have on her marriage, though I'm sure I don't have the 1881 info on her possible family.

Thank you Andrew as well for that list, I have found most of the kids referenced there so far. Interesting little Daniel never made it on - Jack's post is the first I've seen of him but I'll try doing some digging on him. Agnes is my direct line, but Neil is the one who was around his mom at the time of her death. We'll have to see about the others.

Thanks again to you both! Lisa

[Jack]

Hi Lisa,
Census details now added. The basics i first gave were from census CD name indexes.
The 1841 Greenock does give most info, but a look at the original page is needed to see if there are any others with the family.
The 1851 Greenock is basically just a name & age - and likewise, you need to look at the original.

I do this at The Mitchell Library, Glasgow - but it's mainly West of Scotland (Old Strathclyde Area) records they hold.
Though they are adding many other areas on a fairly regular basis - cost is a factor; they have to buy them.

So the CD indexes have varying good points.
A few give birthplaces, some only have a *wildcard* search at the end - others anywhere in a name (the best!).
But i find them all most useful, even with the very occasional error - but even GROS themselves have those....

Jack
Edited to correct The 1851 Glasgow to The 1851 Greenock is etc.

[Andy]

I've got a sneaking suspicion that I've done some of the family for someone else. But it was Cordelia's brother, William's, lines.

Fairly sure this is him in 1881:

Dwelling: 10 Shore St
Census Place: Inverkip, Renfrew, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203576 GRO Ref Volume 567-2 EnumDist 2 Page 7
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William INNES M 40 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Baker
Mary (Stermont) INNES M 33 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Marion INNES U 13 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Dau
William INNES U 10 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Cordelia INNES U 8 F Strone, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
Mary INNES U 5 F Blairmore, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Dau
James INNES U 3 M Port Glasgow, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Agnes INNES U 8 m F Gourock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Dau

[Lahb]

Hi everyone! Jack - thank you again for that information! I'm going to copy off Cordelia Jr's marriage info to confirm, but I'm sure you are quite right about them

Andy, thank you for your information on William, I'll have a look at his marriage certificate to also confirm. The last I left him was with his dad's death certificate - though it's very hard to read so I've just been guessing it's him until now. I might give uploading it a go sometime this weekend to see if others agree. Never done it before but I'm sure I'll figure it out There a lot's of Innes' but wouldn't that be neat if you had helped someone with my (indirect) line.

Regarding the original thread on this family- Ian had asked me to post back once I got the certificate for Agnes which came yesterday!! However maybe I'll start a new thread in the OPR area with her name to avoid confusion .

Thanks again to all who have taken an interest, you've been most helpful! Lisa