Two brothers - One wife?.....

[Cathy]

Any pointers for this please?

Samuel Cummings married Charlotte Cameron 1855.
Her parents Allan Cameron, Seaman and Janet Fulton. The Janet Fulton /
Camerons on SP are not a match.

1861 census: 104 King St., Govan, Glasgow. 644/09 044/09 014
Elizabeth Cumming, Head, Widow, age 40, b. Ireland.
Thomas, Son, Unm., 20, Blacksmith, b. Ireland.
Samuel, Son, Marr., 22, Blacksmith, b. Ireland.
Henry, Son, Unm., 18, Blacksmith, b. Ireland.
Charlotte, Daur.-in-law, Marr., 24, b. Greenock.

1871 census: 13 Crown St., Govan, Glasgow. 644/10 050/10 015
Samuel Cummings, Head, Marr., age 34, Hammerman, b. Belfast, Ireland.
Charlotte Cummings, Wife, age 37, b. Greenock, Renfrew.

Samuel died 1874.

His widowed brother Thomas' married Charlotte Cameron, Spinster 1879.
Parents Duncan Cameron, Seaman and Janet McIntosh.

1881 census: Dwelling: 26 Thistle St
Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203676 GRO Ref Volume 644-12 EnumDist 66 Page 13
Thomas CUMMINGS M 40 M Ireland. Rel: Head. Occ: Hammerman
Charlotte CUMMINGS M 46 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland. Rel: Wife
George CUMMINGS U 18 M Glasgow. Rel: Son. Occ: Hammerman Unemployed
Elizabeth CUMMINGS W 60 F Ireland. Rel: Mother. Occ: Domestic Servant.

D.Cert. copy from SRO 644/12 0516
1902 Deaths in the District of Gorbals in the Burgh of Glasgow.
1902 31st August 1h 45m PM.
Charlotte Cummings, age 62, 38 Adelphi Street, Glasgow.
Married to Thomas Cummings, Hammerman.
Duncan Cameron, Sugar boiler, dec. and Jane Cameron MS McKenzie, dec.

Grateful for any help.

[Rach]

Hello Cathy,
All I can come up with is that names were forgotten over the years and then when confronted with having to supply information for e.g. a wedding they just made names up or raked the memory banks for something that sounded right. My husband had 2 female ancestors who were given the same full name on the death certificate and it definitely was not the same woman who had married a brother. The family probably didn't know her surname. Another of my line had 4 different surnames - one on every certificate I have! I suppose they had other things to think about in those days.
Rae

[Cathy]

Hi Rae,
thanks for reply.
I am leaning towards it being the same woman, as all census have her being born Greenock, and only one suitable death cert.
I'll mull it over for another while.

[Research]

Hi Cathy and Rae

I shocked my father when I came up with this skeleton.

My father had told me his grandfather's name was Samuel ATTWELL. When I did the search it turned out that his Grandfather was William ATTWELL. William had married Eugenie Jesse GALO and they had five children that lived and five that did not survive (though I have never been able to prove the five that did not). Then William and Eugenie divorced and Eugenie married Samuel. It turned out that Samuel and William were brothers.

All my father could say was "I'm glad my mum didn't know that, the information would have killed her." Personally I don't believe it would have killed her, she was a very strong matriach of the family and I bet she already knew.

By the way Rae - I noticed that you listed in the Location section - Tweeddale. Where is that. It's a coincidence that I live in a Tweeddale Street. It's not a common spelling and no one knows where the street got it's name. Maybe someone lived in Tweeddale and named our street after it? Just a bit of trivia.

Shirley

[CatrionaL]

Good Morning Research

I don't know if Rae's Tweeddale is the same one, but the Tweeddale I know is the region of the Borders, Southern Scotland where the river Tweed flows.

Best wishes
Catriona

[Rach]

Hello Everyone,
Sorry for the late reply but I have been away for a few days with no computer access!! My husband got some chat from me for a change.
Yes, Catriona is quite right, Tweeddale is part of the Scottish Borders and the source of the Tweed, which flows through our town, is not too far away. When we first came here our address was Peebleshire, not sure why it changed. Yet another thing to find out! So not sure if I can help you with your Tweeddale Street, Shirley.
Rae

[Research]

Hi all

Is the Isle of Islay anywhere near the Tweed River. If so maybe I have hit upon the person who may have named the street.

Archibald Campbell McDougall was born 1818 Isle of Islay and had a sheep run around Dunolly. He was a member of the Road Board, so maybe he named the street after the Tweed River????????

Research

[AnneM]

Wrong side of the country I'm afraid!!

Anne

[Research]

Thanks AnneM

Knowing where the name of the street came from is not really important, just a side track thought. And don't we tend to do this tooooooo often.

[Andy]

Have you looked for Charlotte Camerons in Greenock in 1851? That may help clear up whether it's the same person who married both brothers (which wasn't that uncommon).