IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME.....

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Skywave
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IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME.....

Post by Skywave » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:28 pm

Hi All

Is it save to assume that if BC shows the parents as Smith/Smith that the mothers maiden name was Smith. All other entries on the page have the Fathers and the Mothers surnames name both in the left hand column and and in the text of the entry. THe reason I am asking is that although the BC shows Legal Son of ..... I can find no Marriage ](*,)


Ron

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Re: IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME

Post by DavidWW » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:36 pm

Skywave wrote:Hi All

Is it save to assume that if BC shows the parents as Smith/Smith that the mothers maiden name was Smith. All other entries on the page have the Fathers and the Mothers surnames name both in the left hand column and and in the text of the entry. THe reason I am asking is that although the BC shows Legal Son of ..... I can find no Marriage ](*,)


Ron
Possibly/Probably............

But are you talking the format John SMITH and Mary SMITH MS SMITH, or John SMITH and Mary SMITH, - what jurisdiction are we talking?, - Scotland or elsewhere ?, - and what type of record ?

David

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Post by Skywave » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:53 pm

David

Scotland. Symington. Lanark

See extract at:
http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-341

Thanks for your prompt reply

Ron

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Post by AndrewP » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:02 pm

Hi Ron,

It does look like Mr Smith married Miss Smith and this OPR entry records the birth and baptism dates. The term "lawful" refers to a birth from a married couple. The equivalent term for a child born to an unmarried couple was usually "natural". Although some OPRs show a much dimmer view, using phrases such as "begotten in fornication". At least the civil birth certificates were a bit more polite than that and used the term illegitimate, until it was banished.

It may well be that there is no surviving record of their marriage.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

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Post by DavidWW » Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:32 pm

Skywave wrote:David

Scotland. Symington. Lanark

See extract at:
http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-341

Thanks for your prompt reply

Ron
What's the format in the other entries on the page ?

David

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Re: IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME

Post by nelmit » Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:35 pm

Skywave wrote:Hi All

Is it save to assume that if BC shows the parents as Smith/Smith that the mothers maiden name was Smith. All other entries on the page have the Fathers and the Mothers surnames name both in the left hand column and and in the text of the entry. THe reason I am asking is that although the BC shows Legal Son of ..... I can find no Marriage ](*,)

Ron
David,

Format as above.

It's strange but the birth doesn't appear to be listed in the IGI but the one of Catherine Thorburn is.
Maybe I'm missing something.

Later.............it looks like one of these missing male entries again.

Annette M

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Re: IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME

Post by AndrewP » Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:31 pm

nelmit wrote:It's strange but the birth doesn't appear to be listed in the IGI but the one of Catherine Thorburn is.
Maybe I'm missing something.

Later.............it looks like one of these missing male entries again.
Yes Annette, Symington is one of the many parishes where only the female births are shown on the online version of the IGI.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson