John Ferguson.....

[bobbyinmelbourne]

Can anyone help find my GGF John Ferguson, born abt 1844 perhaps in Shotts, Lks? I have his Marriage cert. [ to Rachel Grierson, 1866],and Death cert[1918]but since I can't find his birth cert. or info on his parents, Walter Ferguson and Jane Pettigrew probably also born in Lanarkshire, I'm stuck.
There's some stuff on LDS about Walter and Jane but
as most is wrong, the rest is unreliable.Can't find them on 1861 census either.
Anyone with a magic wand?????[sorry, I'm rereading Harry Potter]
Bobby in Melbourne

[LesleyB]

Hi Bobby
I found this on IGI but you probably already know about these children:

1. AGNES FERGUSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 25 AUG 1857 Shotts, Lanark, Scotland (extract)

2. Jane Rae Ferguson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1862 Carluke, Lanark, Scotland (submission)

Then there are quite a few mentions of children for whom the parents are
Walter Fergusson and Mrs. Jean Fergusson and given that many of these seem to be in Shotts, based on the above extract they certainly would seem to be possibles, but as you've noted, all but one are submissions, so careful checking would be needed.

1. Isabell OR Twin Ferguson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: About 1842 Shotts Parish, , Lanark, Scotland

2. John Ferguson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1844 Shotts Parish, , Lanark, Scotland

3. Thomas Ferguson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1846 Shotts Parish, , Lanark, Scotland

4. Walter Ferguson Jr. - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1849 Shotts Parish, , Lanark, Scotland

5. James Ferguson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1850 Shotts Parish, , Lanark, Scotland

6. Isabell OR Twin Ferguson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Death: About 1902

7. Ivy OR Twin Ferguson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: About 1842 Shotts Parish, , Lanark, Scotland

8. Ivy OR Twin Ferguson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Death: About 1902

9. John Ferguson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Death: About 1914

10. Thomas Ferguson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Death: About 1911

11. Walter Ferguson Jr. - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Death: About 1912

12. James Ferguson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Death: About 1920

13. AGNES FERGUSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 25 AUG 1857 Shotts, Lanark, Scotland

14. Jane Rae Ferguson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1862 Carluke, Lanark, Scotland

As many of them mention possible death dates (somone obviously hasn't been on SP - they are all "about" dates!) I'd be tempted to use the free search facility on SP to see if any of them are correct.

Your GGF John Ferguson should be in the 1851, so a short (I hope!) wait and you should be able to look for him on SP with his parents when the '51 comes online.

Best wishes
Lesley

[LesleyB]

Hi Bobby
I had a quick look on the 1881 but nothing obvious - I thought Rachel would be relatively easy to find, but no...do you know when she died?

If the Walter jnr born above is yours then this looks like him in the 1881

• Dwelling
  Census Place: Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
  Source: FHL Film 0203618 GRO Ref Volume 626-B EnumDist 6 Page 12
  Walter FERGUSON M 33 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
  Rel: Head
  Occ: Grocer
  Elizabeth D. FERGUSON M 29 F Annith, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
  Rel: Wife
  Occ: Grocer Wife
  Walter FERGUSON 8 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
  Rel: Son
  Occ: Scholar
  James FERGUSON 6 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
  Rel: Son
  Occ: Scholar
  Ian FERGUSON 4 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
  Rel: Son
  Robert FERGUSON 1 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
  Rel: Son
  Elizabeth RAE U 14 F Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
  Rel: Servant
  Occ: General Servant (Domestic)

and this is maybe Thomas (kids' names certainly look familiar) :

• Dwelling: 3 Old School Row
  Census Place: Muirkirk, Ayr, Scotland
  Source: FHL Film 0203606 GRO Ref Volume 607 EnumDist 3 Page 13
  
  Thomas FERGUSON M 35 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
  Rel: Head
  Occ: Coal Miner
  Margaret FERGUSON M 34 F Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland
  Rel: Wife
  Thomas FERGUSON 10 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
  Rel: Son
  Occ: Scholar
  Margaret FERGUSON 5 F Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
  Rel: Daur
  Occ: Scholar
  Walter FERGUSON 3 M Muirkirk, Ayr, Scotland
  Rel: Son
  Ivie FERGUSON 1 M Muirkirk, Ayr, Scotland
  Rel: Son

Best wishes
Lesley

[nelmit]

Can anyone help find my GGF John Ferguson, born abt 1844 perhaps in Shotts, Lks? I have his Marriage cert. [ to Rachel Grierson, 1866],and Death cert[1918]but since I can't find his birth cert. or info on his parents, Walter Ferguson and Jane Pettigrew probably also born in Lanarkshire, I'm stuck.
There's some stuff on LDS about Walter and Jane but
as most is wrong, the rest is unreliable.Can't find them on 1861 census either.
Anyone with a magic wand?????[sorry, I'm rereading Harry Potter]
Bobby in Melbourne

Hello Bobby in Melbourne,

Some stuff from 1881 census:

ensus Place: Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203618 GRO Ref Volume 626-B EnumDist 6 Page 12
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Walter FERGUSON M 65 M Kingwells, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Shepherd
Jeanie FERGUSON M 70 F Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Willie Mina RAE 2 F Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Grand Daur
Archibald P. BROWN U 24 M Longridge, Linlithgow, Scotland
Rel: Lodger
Occ: Mineral Borer
James WEIR U 29 M Longridge, Linlithgow, Scotland
Rel: Lodger
Occ: Mineral Borer

Neighbours:

Dwelling:
Census Place: Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203618 GRO Ref Volume 626-B EnumDist 6 Page 12
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Walter FERGUSON M 33 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Grocer
Elizabeth D. FERGUSON M 29 F Annith, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Grocer Wife
Walter FERGUSON 8 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
James FERGUSON 6 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Ian FERGUSON 4 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Robert FERGUSON 1 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Elizabeth RAE U 14 F Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Servant
Occ: General Servant (Domestic)

Dwelling:
Census Place: Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203618 GRO Ref Volume 626-B EnumDist 6 Page 12
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William RAE M 39 M Carluke, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Coal Miner
Isabella RAE M 39 F Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Coal Miner Wife
John RAE 11 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Agnes RAE 8 F Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Walter RAE 6 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
William RAE 3 w M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son

Can't find any sign of John though but I'm pretty sure this is Walter and Jean with a couple of children living close by.

Regards,
Annette M

[nelmit]

Hello again,

Still can't find John but I ran a quick search on SP and thought you may be interested in a 1904 death of Jane Ferguson, born 1811, death in Shotts. I can't cross search (and need my last few credits at the moment so can't look) but there is also a death of Jane Pettigrew, born 1811, in Shotts the same year. So I think this is your Jane.

Regards,
Annette M

[Jack]

Hi Bobby,
Here's young John with his family in 1851; couldn't look at the 1861 as the film at the library can't be found.
But John isn't with them - brief details for father Walter in 1861 below.
The 1861 census is online at ScotlandsPeople.
==
1851 cens 655 (647) Ed 5 p 10 (Shotts)
Hillhouse.
Walter FERGUSON, head, marr, 36, agricultural labourer, b N.K. AYR
Jean FERGUSON, wife, marr, 40, --------------b Shotts, LKS
Isabell FERGUSON, daur, 9, -------------------b Shotts, LKS
Ivy FERGUSON, son, 9, ----------------------b Lesmahagow [sic], LKS
John FERGUSON, son, 7, --------------b Shotts, LKS
Thomas FERGUSON, son, 5, --------b Shotts, LKS
Walter FERGUSON, son, 2, -----------b Shotts, LKS
James FERGUSON, son, 11mos,---b Shotts, LKS
--
1861 cens 655 Ed 16 p 17 (Shotts)
Walter FERGUSON, 45, b Kingswell, AYR
Jean 50, b Shotts, LKS
Isabella, 19, b Shotts, LKS
Thomas, 15, b Shotts, LKS
Walter, 12, b Shotts, LKS
James, 10, b Shotts, LKS
Jean, 7, b Shotts, LKS
Agnes, 3, b Shotts, LKS
==
Don't know who this family are, but no harm in knowing of them; quite a popular name is IVY!

1851 cens 655 Ed 2 p 18 (Shotts)
Jane FERGUSON, 56, b Barony, LKS
Andrew, 22, b Cambusnethan, LKS
Ivy, 19, b Cambusnethan, LKS
Alexander, 15, b Shotts, LKs
--
1861 cens 655 Ed 15 p 10 (Shotts)
Andrew, FERGUSON, 32, b Cambusnethan, LKS
Christina, 27, b West Calder, LKS
Janet, 6, b West Calder, LKS
William, 4, b Shotts, LKS
Ivy (male), abt 2, b Shotts, LKS
==
Jack

[bobbyinmelbourne]

Thanks so much all of you; that'll keep me busy for a while.
Have any of you ever been to Shotts? The green bus to Edinburgh went through that way and all I can remember is a grey place - not that Wishaw was very colourful!
Thanks again from sunny Melbourne
Bobby

[bobbyinmelbourne]

Quick addition - I haven't taken in all the info you've given, but one thing I'm really glad about, that some names haven't carried through
IVY and [poor kid] Willie Mina
Bobby again

[CatrionaL]

Have any of you ever been to Shotts? The green bus to Edinburgh went through that way and all I can remember is a grey place -
Bobby

Hi Bobby

I suppose Shotts is "rather a grey place". When I went however, I was wearing the pink-tinted specs of "seeing where my ancestors came from".


Did wonder why the owner of the B&B remarked: "First time I've ever heard of someone choosing to spend their holiday in Shotts." "Especially when they come from Paris!"

Best wishes
Catriona

[StewL]

Hi Bobby

A friend of the family named there youngest son Ivie (I think that was spelling) he was born in Aberdeen in the late 1950's early 60, he was my youngest brothers pal. When my mother had to go to work, he had to stay with that family a couple of doors down after school.
Oh he ended up as an RSM in Army and about 6 foot .