Barbara Dun and Barbara Robertson.....

[annelise1950]

Hi, All. I have been having a heck of a time finding the parents of the above people. Barbara Dun was born 1798 or 1799 in "Forfar" (married to a David Donald in 1822) and whose father was John Dun and Margaret __________(no last name listed). I can't find her mother for anything. Maybe Barbara sprung off the top of John's head, like Athena (I think it was Athena). As for Barbara Robertson, she was born I guess around 1816-1816; married James Lobban in 1835 in Montrose, I believe (or maybe it was Huntly). Any suggestions as to how I can find these two women's mothers? I've tried Scotlandspeople and the IGI and just tried sticking their names out there in cyberland, but so far, nothing. I assume it's possible their mothers died very young.

Thanks, Anne

[Wee Ina]

Hi Anne

This is what i got when i looked on
SP. You would have to order a certificate but im sure it will prove worthwhile.

No Date Surname Forename Spouse Name/Frame No Sex Parish GROS Data Image Extract
1 13/06/1835 LOBBAN JAMES BARBARA ROBERTSON/ M HUNTLY 202/00 0003 No Image ORDER

Wee Ina

[nelmit]

Hi, All. I have been having a heck of a time finding the parents of the above people. Barbara Dun was born 1798 or 1799 in "Forfar" (married to a David Donald in 1822) and whose father was John Dun and Margaret __________(no last name listed). I can't find her mother for anything. Maybe Barbara sprung off the top of John's head, like Athena (I think it was Athena). As for Barbara Robertson, she was born I guess around 1816-1816; married James Lobban in 1835 in Montrose, I believe (or maybe it was Huntly). Any suggestions as to how I can find these two women's mothers? I've tried Scotlandspeople and the IGI and just tried sticking their names out there in cyberland, but so far, nothing. I assume it's possible their mothers died very young.

Thanks, Anne

Anne,

Is this how you guessed Barbara Robertson's age?

Piece: SCT1841/202 Place: Huntly-Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Huntly Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 2 Page: 14
Address: Deveron Street

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
LOBBAN James M 30 Carrier Aberdeenshire
LOBBAN Barbara (Sen) F 25 Outside Census County (1841)
LOBBAN John M 2 Aberdeenshire
LOBBAN Barbara (Jun) F 1 Aberdeenshire
LOBBAN Alexr. M 25 Blacksmith Journeyman Aberdeenshire

If so remember 1841 census rounds down so she could have been born anytime between 1812 and 1816 but not in Aberdeenshire.

Annette M

[AndrewP]

Hi Anne,

Welcome to TalkingScot.

As the marriage Ina has quoted is pre-1855, it will be be from the Old Parochial Registers (OPRs). By far the majority of marriages (or proclamation of banns) found in the OPRs give little information, rarely any information regarding the parents.

To see this OPR, you have a few choices.
(1) Send off to ScotlandsPeople for a copy.
(2) Send off to the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints (LDS) in Salt Lake City for a copy.
(3) Visit your nearest LDS Family History Centre and order in the microfilm for that OPR, usually with an option to make a photocopy from it.

Her death certificate may be easier to track down on ScotlandsPeople using the search by two surnames approach.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

(later) Just had a quick check on ScotlandsPeople for her death and did not see any sign of her.

[annelise1950]

Thanks, I have the certificate but no mother's name. I actually hae Barbara Dun's death certificate which states John Dun is her father and Margaret _____ (Pendiclar) as her mother. I think pendiclar is a crofter or some such. Anne

[AndrewP]

Hi Anne,

Pendiclar / Pendicler - that had me reaching for the dictionary.

Pendicler - the tenant of a pendicle
Pendicle - a small piece of ground for cultivation

So, yes it sounds like a crofter, one working on a small piece of land. I've learned something today.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

[shooeys]

Thanks, I have the certificate but no mother's name. I actually hae Barbara Dun's death certificate which states John Dun is her father and Margaret _____ (Pendiclar) as her mother. I think pendiclar is a crofter or some such. Anne

Hi,
Is Barbara Dun related to Barbara Robertson?
I have Barbara with her husband James on the 1841 Census with her Mother Barbara Robertson shown as ind. is this Barbara Dun. Thanks Sue

[annelise1950]

Hello, Sue. I can't tell if I answered your email or not, and if not, then I'm sorry. No, Barbara Robertson is not related to Barbara Dun. Barbara Robertson married James Lobban and one of their children was Isabella Lobban, my great great grandmother. Barbara Dun married David Donald and one of their children was Ann Donald, who married Thomas Cameron. They are two separate lines. Anne

[Rach]

This is no help to you at all but we have a Barbara Dun b.c.1751 in Berwickshire, perhaps. Still awaiting the opr's to go online or a visit to N.R.H!
Rae