What does this mean? .....

[Alison Plenderleith]

I have various children born to John Griffin and Jemima Carleton from the IGI (extracts, not submissions). Most just say Londonderry, but one says
874, Moneymore, Londonderry. I gather that Moneymore is the Townland( ? ) but can somebody tell me what the 874 means please?

I'm only just starting to research my Irish connections and realise more than ever how lucky we are to have Scotlands People!

Heres hoping,

Alison

[IanS]

Alison, It looks just like the page no. for the local civil register. Go back to your entry and click on the batch no. - enter no names and just search to get every single entry in that particular batch. This transcriber appears to have added the page no. to her transcriptions of the films of the local civil registers.

When it was eventually added to the master index for the year(later quarterly) it might have a volume no. in front of it. The master index was done alphabetically.

[WilmaM]

I I gather that Moneymore is the Townland( ? ) Alison

Moneymore is more than a townland, it's a Town too between Magharafelt and Cookstown.

[Dz]

I have various children born to John Griffin and Jemima Carleton from the IGI (extracts, not submissions). Most just say Londonderry, but one says
874, Moneymore, Londonderry. I gather that Moneymore is the Townland( ? ) but can somebody tell me what the 874 means please?

According to the (free) database at http://www.seanruad.com/ , there are two towns and three townlands listed in a total of three civil parishes of Derry's Magherafelt PLU. (It's likely this means a town and a townland which spanned three civil parishes.)

I'm only just starting to research my Irish connections and realise more than ever how lucky we are to have Scotlands People! :?

We were even luckier when Scots Origins had the GROS contract for the images and indexes: a significantly better search mechanism, CSV-formatted search outputs were available (readily accepted into databases), and true direct-link download of images that did not require a viewer chock full of serious security hazards!

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[Alison Plenderleith]

Hi Ian,

Yes, I see what you mean. I was hoping it was some sort of address.
Thanks for explaining, I do appreciate it.

All the best,

Alison

[IanS]

Alison, What was the father (and Mothers) name on Johns death cert? Was his fathers name William?

[Alison Plenderleith]

Hi Ian,
Father was James and mother was Mary m.s. Mitchell.
Regards,
Alison

[IanS]

O.K. Alison- There's a James Griffin at a place called Ballindrum, parish Artrea, a hop, skip and jump from a William Griffin, William Carleton and Maryanne Mitchell at Mawillian Townland , parish of Artrea. I can't find a townland map, but the reason I think these 2 places are near to each other is beacause James is on page 289 G.V. and the rest on 290. with 2 very small townlands in between.

Also bear in mind that there were only 12 Griffin head of households in Londonderry at that time, and Mawillian was the only place I could find a Griffin /Carleton match. Mitchell was a bonus.

Do you have the occupation of James? If he was a schoolteacher/caretaker it would be brilliant as he is living next to the school.

However the marriage of John griffin and Jemima Carleton in 1859 is on

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/

Now it doesn't say if this is a parish or civil record, but if your ancestors were protestant and this is a civil record , you can send for it, and hopefully it might clarify things.
You could send for it from

http://www.groireland.ie OR

click on the following link, then District Register Offices and then e-mail the Magherafelt office and ask if they have the marriage records for Moneymore. (though they may not have married there!!)

http://www.groni.gov.uk/index.htm

[Alison Plenderleith]

Hi Ian,

James was recorded as a farmer on John's death cert.
Jemima's father was William George Carleton(mason) and mother Jane Speirs (sorry, should have posted this before).
Interestingly though, I was 'Googling' around this morning and came across a posting on Rootsweb from 1998 talking about the same James as you found on GV. I`ve e-mailed the person concerned and hope I get a reply, although after seven years........
Do you know if I'm likely to get any info from a marriage cert. that I haven't already got for John and Jemima? I think my next step is to try and find a marriage for both sets of parents (they were non-catholic).

Once again, thank you for taking the time to help.

All the best,

Alison

[IanS]

The following site will tell you what's on various civil reg. certs.

http://www.from-ireland.net/gene/civilregistration.htm

Re- James. -- Still possible, as though he's living next to school, he's renting a fair sized piece of land - so could be a farmer. There is another James in Londonderry- a townland called Ballymulderg more. However it is possible it is neither of them, James could have passed away by this time. I think I would be tempted to try for John and Jemima's marriage cert.

There are Griffin and Carleton entries on the 1766 religious census, I'll send you them later, just for filing for future ref.